i think balance changes for infestors in hots are what we should be moving towards

in that regard, i think blizz should consider putting viper on spire, as of now there's a role overlap and not enough gas to spare for vipers instead of infestors, and nobody is willing to skip spending gas on infestors to go straight into vipers to synergize with their army comp.

i'd say that with vipers on spire instead of hive, the incentive for spire switches from JUST broodlords/corruptors into a mid-game caster unit that would result in flavorful mid-late game playstyle, instead of just infestors infestors infestors.

it seems they've given further incentive to take infestors with the swarm host added on, but they're completely shunning the spire, which is already dwindling in popularity until hive.

Mutas suck until like 20 of em.
I feel like if they nerf infestors again, it will cause a spiral of losses for zerg, it's not our fault that we have to rely on them so much, with out infestor broods, we literally can't beat mech or death balls... like seriously, what do people expect us to do?

Mutas suck until like 8 of them. You're using them wrong, I can almost guarantee it.

Vs marine tank?... Marine shred through mutas like butter lol.

Protoss , pheonix or stalkers :/

This post was edited by Death_killaxx on Nov 11 2012 02:38pm

yo.

Nah it's hard to snipe tanks unless I catch them with their pants down and no marines.
Obviously I don't suicide my shit into marines, but that's why muta ling bling isn't used much any more haha
Infestor much more efficient / cost efficient.

I see so many zergs in masters go for muta ling, with a proper macro, it's just retarded. You can so overwhelm the terran from multiple pronges, and with proper mutalisk harassment you can halt the terran's production so hard.
Only reason you can't use it, is because your macro is bad.

my macro isn't bad, I just need better overlord cycles .

Well, if the terran scouts mutas, and doesn't make turrets... he deserves to get fucked.

Yeah, proof positive you're using them wrong.



Infestor is easier and doesn't require as much multi-tasking. Well used mutas are stronger, as I hope JD will show.



I'd say it's more multi-tasking than macro. It's the challenge of not just macroing, but macroing while microing. And I would assume that his micro is poor as well.



Even with turrets once you get up to 12-14 mutas you can do serious damage. SCVs aren't the only thing you can kill...supply depots, add-ons, even buildings if he doesn't respond quickly. You have no idea how annoying it is to constantly be supply blocked by mutas.

If he goes super turtle, just build ling roach infestor (if you have infestor tech up) and attack...he's low on minerals so either he doesn't have enough expands (weaker economy, you remax faster), production (weaker production, you remax faster) or a smaller army (you crush him and he dies).

only reason he cant use them is because his multitasking and probably micro is bad.