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Nov 25 2012 10:30pm
Quote (Floooopy @ Nov 25 2012 05:53pm)
http://drop.sc/278717

http://drop.sc/278716

Watch me lose some games. Frustrating. One of them is a tvp where storm carries protoss players again, and one is a tvt where I get outplayed by a mech player. Hope he was a smurf, otherwise I just suck at this game right now. Fuck.


Will watch and get back to you.
/e
The TvP is against a guy named iRandom...did he random or did you know he was Toss?

This post was edited by BardOfXiix on Nov 25 2012 10:37pm
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Nov 26 2012 04:39pm
TvT:

Storm is in fact, pretty cool.

Moar scouting. After the banshees go away, send your hellion around to check for expos and find out what his unit comp is. That would let you build marauders and poop on him.
You can't lose those dropships without doing damage. You went before stim was done, which fucked you. Then he had vikings out the ass. At the same time, he dropped your main and did tons of damage. You did okay damage with the push at the 3rd base, but not enough to justify losing as much as you did.
At the end of the day, you lost that game because he had a 3rd base and you didn't, plus he did way more economic damage to you than you did to him.
Also, you were kind of floundering. Your build didn't really seem to go anywhere. It didn't build up to a timing, didn't build up to a fast 3rd...I'd try to look for a different BO for TvT.

TvP:

With a push like this, bring 2 SCVs to build a bunker. You get the bunker up, you basically win.
That was actually a really nice opening, aside from your first two marines getting fucked up by a single zealot xD

At 10 minutes, you've done retarded amounts of damage. Add rax, push, win. NN to let this game go on longer, stomp him before he gets splash because of how many probes he's lost/how much mining time he's missed out on. I know people like to say "if you're ahead, get more ahead"...not as Terran. You don't win late game TvP. Protoss gets splash out the ass and shits in your cereal. Kill him before he hits that point. Go up to 6 rax, bring 2-3 SCVs, and murder the fuck out of him while he tries to frantically get splash damage of some kind to defend your next push.

Good decision to base race, you have floating buildings. When he leaves, though, you have to drop those buildings again and start production instantly. If your army gets crushed, you can out-reinforce him since you slaughtered his base. Also, you had shitty rally points, you lost a ton of units walking rather than shooting.
Your engage was poor, and your decision to engage was poor. You clumped up...instead, pre-split and send the SCVs in front. Also, you didn't have to engage him there...just kill the Nexus, then if he crushes your army it doesn't matter, he can't reinforce (he does have probes hidden, but the tiem to rebuild the nexus + gates + all the other stuff gives you more than enough time to restart your economy since you still have CCs, rax, etc. He barely touched your base, the only thing you lost was all your SCVs and all your army.

Not sure why you floated your rax to his base. Or really why you moved them to the low ground. You spent too much time flying not enough time building.

TBH, you left a game you still could have (and should have) won. Build raxes in 2 spots, at the 3rd and up in the upper left corner. He catches one set, but not both--meaning you build up and army at one spot and kill his small force ezpz.

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There was a lot going on in the TvP game at the end, but you need to focus the attention on your base (since his army came to your base) and let your marines a-move through his empty base. You put yourself in a great spot but didn't execute the base trade correctly.

This post was edited by BardOfXiix on Nov 26 2012 04:42pm
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Nov 26 2012 04:55pm
Quote (Floooopy @ Nov 25 2012 07:08pm)
I need tvt help, guys. Masters+ tvt, willing to lose games in order to get better. My tvt has gone to shit.


im there for you :D
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Nov 29 2012 03:30pm
Update: I am improving. I have found that my brain can work faster than my actions now. It used to be like, when I'm harassing, I get so tunnel visioned that when I finally look up, I see I have 1k/600 resources. Now, I look up there WHILE I'm harassing. Maybe it's not brain speed or understanding, but rather my awareness is much better than it used to be. Either way, my gameplay is improving vastly.

Improvements made:
Tvz is muuuch more comfortable now. I rarely get caught off guard with a hive tech transition. My pre-positioning is much better.
My mechanics have gotten much better.
My macro has gotten much better.
My apm is used more efficiently. Most of my actions have a purpose.
My understanding, and thus everything else about my game, has improved.
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Dec 2 2012 04:57am
Floopy your obviously pretty damn good you beat what's his name in that tournament.
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Dec 2 2012 05:05pm
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=275104
holy shit what did i just play
just felt like sharing, but didn't want to open a new topic.
52 minutes mech tvp, just to summarize.

This post was edited by Cpt_Ghost on Dec 2 2012 05:19pm
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Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Dec 2 2012 04:05pm)
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=275104
holy shit what did i just play
just felt like sharing, but didn't want to open a new topic.
52 minutes mech tvp, just to summarize.


...I may watch this at some point. But not for like half a week.
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Quote (BardOfXiix @ 3 Dec 2012 07:46)
...I may watch this at some point.  But not for like half a week.


it was a pretty interesting game. Should have thrown some ghosts and nukes into the lategame mix though.
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Dec 3 2012 06:17am
I play zerg.

i'm trying to get from low/mid masters to 1k+ masters, i never learned how to really read builds or use information from scouting.

However I do know the obvious signs from scouting such as a 4 gate or an early pool, if he's going to try a baneling bust or banshees.

my mechanical skill is pretty lack luster (i suck at spreading creep, spreading overlords, injects etc) but my minimap awareness is ok I think and my apm is around 150 average.

anyways..

What I've gotten good at

1. spamming for more useless apm

2.

What I need to work on

1. using my brain more

Thanks
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Quote (cheeblet @ Dec 3 2012 01:17pm)
I play zerg.

i'm trying to get from low/mid masters to 1k+ masters, i never learned how to really read builds or use information from scouting.

However I do know the obvious signs from scouting such as a 4 gate or an early pool, if he's going to try a baneling bust or banshees.

my mechanical skill is pretty lack luster (i suck at spreading creep, spreading overlords, injects etc) but my minimap awareness is ok I think and my apm is around 150 average.

anyways..

What I've gotten good at

1. spamming for more useless apm

2.

What I need to work on

1. using my brain more

Thanks


well all your points are mostly things you got to improve by urself, injecting etc.

here are some scouting informations:

vs zerg:
- put an overlord behind his mineral line at the natural to see how many drones he got, if he doesnt build any get banelings/spine crawlers up.
- try at 6:30 to sneak in his base with a few lings, if you see 4 gases taken and lair upgrading he goes mutas, if he got only 2 gases he gonna roach.
- if ling scout was denied send overseer at ~7min

vs Toss:
- Send first overlord to his natural, if he doesnt ffe keep scouting with lings, if he makes a sentry he gonna take the natural and probably plays a 7-8min push with mass sentries
- if hes goes ffe send your first overlord to his gases at the natural, get your second overlord ready to scout at 7min his main. if he didnt take 4gases at 6:30 he prolly plays 7gate so get your roach warren asap, if he takes the 4 gases its gonna be robo or stargate play, scout his main at 7min to see if he build 3 gates or 6. 6gates = immo allin 3gates= 3rd

vs terra:
- scout his main at 6:00 to see if he gonna plays banchee or not, if he harras with helions its mostly gonna be banchee play anyway
- be always active with lings, get mapcontrol etc to see whats coming. once u lose mapcontrol to terra u lose the game
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