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my name has been mentioned a few times

use it with respect pls


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Yes sir, but I heard that nova faggot is terrible.


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my name has been mentioned a few times

use it with respect pls


Sorry, you are heidtb and not Nova.
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wall of retardedness


(unrelated, someone quoted my comparison and said i must be black because i mentioned basketball or something, not that it was retarded)

its not complicated at all. i have no idea why you just wrote like 700 words about it.

think of it this way: 2 starcraft players play a series (say best of 5) in order to determine who wins. You said you only beat him once, and I used the comparison to justify why it doesn't really mean anything if you didn't play him in a series. The only thing I meant was that its similar to a basketball game where there is only one possession. That's literally it.

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(unrelated, someone quoted my comparison and said i must be black because i mentioned basketball or something, not that it was retarded)

its not complicated at all. i have no idea why you just wrote like 700 words about it.

think of it this way: 2 starcraft players play a series (say best of 5) in order to determine who wins. You said you only beat him once, and I used the comparison to justify why it doesn't really mean anything if you didn't play him in a series. The only thing I meant was that its similar to a basketball game where there is only one possession. That's literally it.


What do you mean it doesn't mean anything?
If a game is played, statistics and records are added.

SO. If you wanted it to be as "literal" as it could be, then the score between me and Bianka is 1-0, thus I will dodge every other game and say I am the best. I am a retired professional Starcraft II player so I won't be competing anymore. Now I, Michael Jordon, will never have to face the guilt of losing to Bianka ever again. Is what your saying? Shut the fuck up.

You put Basketball and Starcraft II in comparison of "should be played as series", yet you added the ball for no reason except the fact that the ball shows there will only be 1 possession.

So what you intended on saying is that, a game that is like 8 minutes long would be equivalent to 1 minute in basketball. So me scoring a point then the game ends in 1 minute and so the person didn't have the opportunity of having possession of the ball. -- This is exactly what you are saying, your a fucking idiot. Don't ever use comparison with basketball and starcraft II again.

It's the opposing teams fault for not being able to defend the initial play ( push ). Boom, we scored, thanks, we win. If we didn't score, then it would go overtime ( ASSUMING THAT THERE IS ONLY 1 MINUTE IN GAME-TIME OF BASKETBALL ).
By the way, the better player is the person to allow his teammate to receive the first possession. So there goes another fault in the opposing team, not being good enough to get that first possession OR simply making the mistake.

fuck your a dumbass

E; if you are going to talk about fucking sports and related to another sport, then you better fucking know what you are talking about.

Your better off fucking comparing table tennis with starcraft 2.

oh.. so WHAT you are saying is that because the game was only 8 minutes long, it took no skill whatsoever for me to win that game. Because I was the only person to have possession throughout the game. I made only 1 play and won the game. Jesus fuck.

This post was edited by RecenT on Sep 9 2010 11:34pm
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What do you mean it doesn't mean anything?
If a game is played, statistics and records are added.

SO. If you wanted it to be as "literal" as it could be, then the score between me and Bianka is 1-0, thus I will dodge every other game and say I am the best. I am a retired professional Starcraft II player so I won't be competing anymore. Now I, Michael Jordon, will never have to face the guilt of losing to Bianka ever again. Is what your saying? Shut the fuck up.

You put Basketball and Starcraft II in comparison of "should be played as series", yet you added the ball for no reason except the fact that the ball shows there will only be 1 possession.

So what you intended on saying is that, a game that is like 8 minutes long would be equivalent to 1 minute in basketball. So me scoring a point then the game ends in 1 minute and so the person didn't have the opportunity of having possession of the ball. -- This is exactly what you are saying, your a fucking idiot. Don't ever use comparison with basketball and starcraft II again.

It's the opposing teams fault for not being able to defend the initial play ( push ). Boom, we scored, thanks, we win. If we didn't score, then it would go overtime ( ASSUMING THAT THERE IS ONLY 1 MINUTE IN GAME-TIME OF BASKETBALL ).
By the way, the better player is the person to allow his teammate to receive the first possession. So there goes another fault in the opposing team, not being good enough to get that first possession OR simply making the mistake.

fuck your a dumbass

E; if you are going to talk about fucking sports and related to another sport, then you better fucking know what you are talking about.

Your better off fucking comparing table tennis with starcraft 2.

oh.. so WHAT you are saying is that because the game was only 8 minutes long, it took no skill whatsoever for me to win that game. Because I was the only person to have possession throughout the game. I made only 1 play and won the game. Jesus fuck.


read some negative words so i stopped reading but i will try to make this retard-proof

i am playing my friend in a 1 on 1 in basketball. i get the ball first, run it down the court and dunk it in his face. the score is 2-0, and i declare the game is over and i win.

its so simple. im saying your 1 game doesn't justify saying things like "i smashed you," just like me dunking the ball in your face and ending the game before it should be over



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this is still going on?



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read some negative words so i stopped reading but i will try to make this retard-proof

i am playing my friend in a 1 on 1 in basketball. i get the ball first, run it down the court and dunk it in his face. the score is 2-0, and i declare the game is over and i win.

its so simple. im saying your 1 game doesn't justify saying things like "i smashed you," just like me dunking the ball in your face and ending the game before it should be over


Okay. I will try not to use the negative words, but this time, take liberty in reading my wall of texts.

You are playing your friend in a 1 on 1 in basketball, you got the ball first and dunked it in his face -- giving you the lead. You declare victory on your own terms, and not by a set of score or time.

I am playing Bianka, and the declared winner is the one who applies himself upon the mistakes of his opponents, then beating him for his mistakes.

Here is the situation I am trying to explain: You dribble the ball down, so you are making the first push. In his regard, he has to defend or have you make a mistake. So in his attempt, if he failed to defend you from dunking, then he loses.
Clearly you know who is better, but of course, it doesn't end right there. It's only 1 play, and you both declared the score to end the game at the score of 2. Other than that, if you yourself declared victory, then you would be doing what you think I was doing.

In my terms, we are playing Starcraft II. Bianka makes the first push, and in my regard I have to defend or beat him for his mistakes. So he pushes, and I found the flaw in his mistake.
So the game didn't end right there! [ Basically I am in your friends position and Bianka is you ]. I successfully defended you from dunking onto me. Now I have possession of the ball and choose to make a push. Now he's in the defending position, he either defends, capitalize on my mistake, then gain the advantage. He was unable to do that, thus making me the winner.

So it doesn't matter if the game is 8 minutes or 30 minutes, it's all equivalent in skill. Having the game duration longer is only being to continue recovering from your mistakes and making the opposing player make a mistake, exactly the same thing in basketball.

You are playing 1 game, timed, and when it's over it is over. Those are the rules of Basketball and these are the rules of Starcraft II.

So how are you saying that "playing in a bo1 does not show that you have more skill than him." Playing in a bo3 only shows you that you make less mistakes than he does, but all in all, it does not mean that it takes no skill.

Your argument was Less Duration = Less skill. This is what we are arguing about, not who is "the better player from a bo1/3/5." And as I said before, I was not TRYING to prove that I am better than him if you just took the moment to read I wouldn't have to perform another wall of text.

Edit: Show to me that I am wrong, because when I argued with Schlag and he made that big response, I was like "damn that hurts" because a lot of things he said was true.

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Okay. I will try not to use the negative words, but this time, take liberty in reading my wall of texts.

You are playing your friend in a 1 on 1 in basketball, you got the ball first and dunked it in his face -- giving you the lead. You declare victory on your own terms, and not by a set of score or time.

I am playing Bianka, and the declared winner is the one who applies himself upon the mistakes of his opponents, then beating him for his mistakes.

Here is the situation I am trying to explain: You dribble the ball down, so you are making the first push. In his regard, he has to defend or have you make a mistake. So in his attempt, if he failed to defend you from dunking, then he loses.
Clearly you know who is better, but of course, it doesn't end right there. It's only 1 play, and you both declared the score to end the game at the score of 2. Other than that, if you yourself declared victory, then you would be doing what you think I was doing.

In my terms, we are playing Starcraft II. Bianka makes the first push, and in my regard I have to defend or beat him for his mistakes. So he pushes, and I found the flaw in his mistake.
So the game didn't end right there! [ Basically I am in your friends position and Bianka is you ]. I successfully defended you from dunking onto me. Now I have possession of the ball and choose to make a push. Now he's in the defending position, he either defends, capitalize on my mistake, then gain the advantage. He was unable to do that, thus making me the winner.

So it doesn't matter if the game is 8 minutes or 30 minutes, it's all equivalent in skill. Having the game duration longer is only being to continue recovering from your mistakes and making the opposing player make a mistake, exactly the same thing in basketball.

You are playing 1 game, timed, and when it's over it is over. Those are the rules of Basketball and these are the rules of Starcraft II.

So how are you saying that "playing in a bo1 does not show that you have more skill than him." Playing in a bo3 only shows you that you make less mistakes than he does, but all in all, it does not mean that it takes no skill.

Your argument was Less Duration = Less skill. This is what we are arguing about, not who is "the better player from a bo1/3/5." And as I said before, I was not TRYING to prove that I am better than him if you just took the moment to read I wouldn't have to perform another wall of text.


You're adding your own twist. Myself and the majority of the RTS community plays competitive RTS matches in a series. My point has nothing to do with skill or duration, only that you need to play a series before you can justify saying "I smashed you." I'm not talking about the specifics of the game whatsoever.

This post was edited by dwalk1989 on Sep 10 2010 12:10am
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Quote (Schlag96 @ Sep 9 2010 04:14pm)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46746759&p=312030773

If you're going to spam my tournament thread at least have the decency to come up with something original, or at the very least halfway amusing.


Hey Mr. Grumpypants no need to hate on me :( . This topic is nothing but spam..there's too much e-drama in here, we are on the internets, this topic is full of way too many tl;drs people trying to argue with each other.

It's like MMA. On paper it may appear one thing, but anything can happen in a match, and it's not until one happens that one can wall someone with something to back it up.
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