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Apr 5 2016 01:38am
Quote (StNamu @ Apr 4 2016 07:31pm)
I find zerg and terran the hardest


Z > T > P

Not much really changes in SC. Raine is right, Z takes a higher function of control and fundamental understanding of the entire game than what P/T require to hit M/GM. That being said, it's not by any means easy to get their with P/T just because it's slightly easier than Z. I'm sure most P/T players who have been at this level for awhile have just as much of an understanding of the game as their Z counterparts at this point, but that could have come months after of already being in M or GM, while a Z player would never be able to reach M without those skills in place to begin with. (well, most wouldn't. I was never a Z player but I think I remember a guy who cheesed to masters in WoL with Z doing the exact same build every single game). Mastery of any race on SC is highly commendable and honestly awe-inspiring to a noob like myself. But even a noob like myself can understand and agree with where Raine is coming from.

Edit - I played Protoss when I did play. I have no delusions about my race. The fact that I wasn't able to get out of plat in singles playing Toss is a testament in itself of how terrible I was at SC and one of the main reasons I quit. I didn't know the race was broken/easy when I started playing, I never copied OP build orders when they showed up, I just always played Toss since BW and I wasn't ready to switch when I moved to SC2.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Apr 5 2016 01:41am
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Apr 6 2016 12:24am
yeah, i notice this routine with a lot of the streamers i watch on twitch or youtube. they just do the same 2-3 builds over and over and perfect it down to a TEE. and they can win most matches and climb their way up to GM, but honestly, watching these guys, some of their mechanics are worse than mine
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Apr 9 2016 12:57am
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Apr 9 2016 01:52pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Apr 5 2016 02:38am)
Z > T > P



Saying things like this is just a losers cop out for being bad. Outplay your opponent and win the game. There is no other frame of mind that is worth considering. Honestly, what the fuck is the point?
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Apr 9 2016 02:28pm
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Apr 10 2016 05:48pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Apr 9 2016 12:52pm)
Saying things like this is just a losers cop out for being bad. Outplay your opponent and win the game. There is no other frame of mind that is worth considering. Honestly, what the fuck is the point?


Do you read much?

I'm simply stating which is harder, how the fuck is admitting to playing the easiest race and still being low rank a "cop out"? Are you incapable of reading and comprehending simple concepts or what?
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Apr 10 2016 06:30pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Apr 10 2016 06:48pm)
Do you read much?

I'm simply stating which is harder, how the fuck is admitting to playing the easiest race and still being low rank a "cop out"? Are you incapable of reading and comprehending simple concepts or what?


I know exactly what you said and I know you said you're bad, but the Z > T > P thing at the beginning of your post is completely useless information that adds nothing to the rest of your post. I was speaking more generally, like when people quote minigun saying things like this with information from early hots.

Is it not possible that your perception of what is hard and what isn't hard in this game is fucked because you're bad?
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Apr 11 2016 11:59am
Masters, no, GM, maybe.

I reached masters zerg with just roaches as a T main.
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Apr 11 2016 01:31pm
Quote (holynorth @ 11 Apr 2016 19:59)
Masters, no, GM, maybe.

I reached masters zerg with just roaches as a T main.


you could always do that too til gm too, not really relevant
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