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Feb 17 2014 07:48am
Quote (HypnotyZ @ Feb 17 2014 01:47am)
terran has become the biggest crybaby race it's pathetic, so many terrans jumping on avilo's whinewagon

learn how to snipe and emp stop qq about trash unit comps and bad micro to find an excuse for losing to storms

terran is a utility race if you dont know how to use cheap high dps/low hp units effectively then switch to zerg or protoss.. honestly its not that difficult, you have the ability to make protoss split their army up to defend, so decide which of the 2 split armies is weakest or find another hole..manipulate army position, force engagements and pick off units.. terran requires you to outplay your opponent and when you do that correctly its well balanced.. stop blaming imba and start blaming yourself for being trash, figure out why you lost and get better instead of qq about toss


yea terran APM like 300 million

toss 2

balance
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Feb 17 2014 08:31am
Quote (HypnotyZ @ 17 Feb 2014 07:47)
terran has become the biggest crybaby race it's pathetic, so many terrans jumping on avilo's whinewagon

learn how to snipe and emp stop qq about trash unit comps and bad micro to find an excuse for losing to storms

terran is a utility race if you dont know how to use cheap high dps/low hp units effectively then switch to zerg or protoss.. honestly its not that difficult, you have the ability to make protoss split their army up to defend, so decide which of the 2 split armies is weakest or find another hole..manipulate army position, force engagements and pick off units.. terran requires you to outplay your opponent and when you do that correctly its well balanced.. stop blaming imba and start blaming yourself for being trash, figure out why you lost and get better instead of qq about toss


you are gold level and stupid as fuck
stay irrelevant.
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Feb 17 2014 06:04pm
still the same shit kenn
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Feb 17 2014 06:16pm
Quote (HypnotyZ @ Feb 17 2014 04:47pm)
terran has become the biggest crybaby race it's pathetic, so many terrans jumping on avilo's whinewagon

learn how to snipe and emp stop qq about trash unit comps and bad micro to find an excuse for losing to storms

terran is a utility race if you dont know how to use cheap high dps/low hp units effectively then switch to zerg or protoss.. honestly its not that difficult, you have the ability to make protoss split their army up to defend, so decide which of the 2 split armies is weakest or find another hole..manipulate army position, force engagements and pick off units.. terran requires you to outplay your opponent and when you do that correctly its well balanced.. stop blaming imba and start blaming yourself for being trash, figure out why you lost and get better instead of qq about toss


So what you are saying is terran requires far more skill and strategy to play than protoss so hence protoss is not overpowered?
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Feb 17 2014 07:35pm
Blink all-in is pretty strong because of the earlier timing with vision, but the only way to nerf it is to drastically scale back msc's range. Don't see that happening, maybe by 1-3 and also add another 15-20 seconds to blink upgrade time to help get the timing back closer to wol. When I'm playing PvT I only blink stalker all-in to punish extra greedy terrans(there's quite a few of them). I usually macro behind it as well. Not every toss plays like maxblack.Terran is used to getting away with earlier CCs because toss is forced to open gate cyber and 1 zealot(can cancel) before nexus. With earlier timings in blink and oracle it forces terran to be more modest. If a protoss opens nexus first, or gate nexus, terran will just allin. From a random players perspective I still think blink timing is a little strong. It's also really easy to execute in any league. Regardless though winrates are pretty even across the board.

Blizzard doesn't seem willing to help protoss by nerfing swarm hosts either. They're suggesting increasing the damage slightly for tempest vs buildings, like having 4 tempest instead of 5 to 1 hit kill a spore is going to make the difference. SH pretty OP late game. Toss struggles against late game zerg, terran struggles against toss for a 2 minute window, and the win rates are hardly off enough to notice. Big deal. life isn't perfect, I guess that's a harsh reality for some folks.

In terms of apm/ skill requirement, terran definitely takes a bit more skill than protoss. The reason for that is because of the way the game was designed. Protoss is supposed to have expensive, powerful, less mobile units that are stronger in a straight up engagement. Terran is supposed to have cheap, low HP, high DPS units that accel in harass and manipulating opponents army movement. Terran has amazing late game economy with orbital/pf and doesn't depend on gas to make game ending units, protoss vice versa. Terran requires the skill to outplay their protoss opponent. The tools are there, you just have to use them. It's so annoying listening to avilo, painuser etc whine about these basic game designs while ignoring the strong points of their own race. I have avilo's stream open as I type this, he's screaming and crying THIS GAME DOESNT MAKE ANY FKCING SSNSE WHAT THE FK HOLY SHIT OMG.. seriously what a little bitch. I guess you can call me a sadist cuz terran tears are pretty entertaining.


Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ 17 Feb 2014 06:31)
you are gold level and stupid as fuck
stay irrelevant.


I'm a random player and I've always played in diamond, cool story though. You seem like an angry individual. I played against coL.Midday last week on his plat warm-up smurf. I got rekt. He must be a shitty player though because he's got a plat account. Middle leagues are skill relevant as fuck yo! I shouldn't use sarcasm, not sure if you'd get it being how mad you are. If I played one race I'd be consistently masters, but then I'd be bored and mad as fuck at the game like you are. I prefer to enjoy myself on a video game that I play in my spare time for recreation. Good luck going pro with your stream, I don't need l337 nerd props of being a masters level streamer with a whopping 7 viewers. I will keep enjoying the game from all perspectives.
"stay mad." bro


I find random to be the most enjoyable way to play considering I don't strive for GM or care to brag about master's league to all the hot girlz and the chess club. I'm sure Cpt_Ghost gets mad lays for his SC2 accomplishments though! If terrans think TvP is broken to the point of tearing up and raging out on forum threads and quitting, then consider switching races. Til then, stay jimmy rustled, everyone else is laughing at you because you look like a bandwagon of crying teenage girls.
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Feb 17 2014 08:38pm
^^
tldr
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Feb 17 2014 08:47pm
Quote (G_Eagle @ 17 Feb 2014 18:38)
^^
tldr


reminiscent of your education, am I right?
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Feb 17 2014 09:05pm
Quote (HypnotyZ @ Feb 17 2014 09:47pm)
reminiscent of your education, am I right?


all i see was you trying to self justify the fact that you are metal league

thats all i see]

your trash, nothing to do with balance, you are just retarded.

congrats on playing a pro/semi pro in plat, should write us an essay about how the game went. your essays are very wow.

something like ---- "he owned me cause i don't play alot and i play random and i don't brag about master league and its just a game and i dont whine, I could definitely beat him if i played just 1 race!! i play in diamond!!"



This post was edited by G_Eagle on Feb 17 2014 09:21pm
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Feb 18 2014 04:31am
Quote (HypnotyZ @ 18 Feb 2014 02:35)
Blink all-in is pretty strong because of the earlier timing with vision, but the only way to nerf it is to drastically scale back msc's range. Don't see that happening, maybe by 1-3 and also add another 15-20 seconds to blink upgrade time to help get the timing back closer to wol. When I'm playing PvT I only blink stalker all-in to punish extra greedy terrans(there's quite a few of them). I usually macro behind it as well. Not every toss plays like maxblack.Terran is used to getting away with earlier CCs because toss is forced to open gate cyber and 1 zealot(can cancel) before nexus. With earlier timings in blink and oracle it forces terran to be more modest. If a protoss opens nexus first, or gate nexus, terran will just allin. From a random players perspective I still think blink timing is a little strong. It's also really easy to execute in any league. Regardless though winrates are pretty even across the board.

Blizzard doesn't seem willing to help protoss by nerfing swarm hosts either. They're suggesting increasing the damage slightly for tempest vs buildings, like having 4  tempest instead of 5 to 1 hit kill a spore is going to make the difference. SH pretty OP late game. Toss struggles against late game zerg, terran struggles against toss for a 2 minute window, and the win rates are hardly off enough to notice. Big deal. life isn't perfect, I guess that's a harsh reality for some folks.

In terms of apm/ skill requirement, terran definitely takes a bit more skill than protoss. The reason for that is because of the way the game was designed. Protoss is supposed to have expensive, powerful, less mobile units that are stronger in a straight up engagement. Terran is supposed to have cheap, low HP, high DPS units that accel in harass and manipulating opponents army movement. Terran has amazing late game economy with orbital/pf and doesn't depend on gas to make game ending units, protoss vice versa. Terran requires the skill to outplay their protoss opponent. The tools are there, you just have to use them. It's so annoying listening to avilo, painuser etc whine about these basic game designs while ignoring the strong points of their own race. I have avilo's stream open as I type this, he's screaming and crying THIS GAME DOESNT MAKE ANY FKCING SSNSE WHAT THE FK HOLY SHIT OMG.. seriously what a little bitch. I guess you can call me a sadist cuz terran tears are pretty entertaining.




I'm a random player and I've always played in diamond, cool story though. You seem like an angry individual. I played against coL.Midday last week on his plat warm-up smurf. I got rekt. He must be a shitty player though because he's got a plat account. Middle leagues are skill relevant as fuck yo! I shouldn't use sarcasm, not sure if you'd get it being how mad you are. If I played one race I'd be consistently masters, but then I'd be bored and mad as fuck at the game like you are. I prefer to enjoy myself on a video game that I play in my spare time for recreation. Good luck going pro with your stream, I don't need l337 nerd props of being a masters level streamer with a whopping 7 viewers. I will keep enjoying the game from all perspectives.
"stay mad." bro


I find random to be the most enjoyable way to play considering I don't strive for GM or care to brag about master's league to all the hot girlz and the chess club. I'm sure Cpt_Ghost gets mad lays for his SC2 accomplishments though! If terrans think TvP is broken to the point of tearing up and raging out on forum threads and quitting, then consider switching races. Til then, stay jimmy rustled, everyone else is laughing at you because you look like a bandwagon of crying teenage girls.

Lol how mad you got from those 2 lines, wrote me a whole tldr
not gonna read it bro, nice try.
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Feb 20 2014 03:42pm
My post was @everyone else's posts that followed mine, so I included balance discussion, as this is clearly a balance temper tantrum thread by the children of terran. I dedicated two paragraphs to let you know how much of a virgin you sound like when you cry. I'm sure you read it too, but please keep acting like you didn't. Like a little kid that puts both index fingers in his ears and screams neener neener neener. Anyone with a bachelors degree or better is capable of writing a few paragraphs in a 5 minute period. Takes a minute to read if you're not a dyslexic gleeking retard like avilo and fans. Shouldn't expect much from you reddit trolls though.
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