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Jun 16 2013 06:35pm
Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jun 16 2013 08:31pm)
oh that, yeah, I suck now compared to where I used to be.

obviously still better than the regular posters of this forum and tons more, but the more i play the more I realize I'll never be able to reach a point where I dont have a massive chance @ losing to some skill less fuck doing a scripted note pad build.

was funny though, the biggest motivators to keep going was people like idra and stephano being so much better than me, it made me say to myself "if they can do it so I can I" and they both hate the game and are quitting/did quit.

sidenote: stephanos post advancing from group stage #3 interview:0" the game makes me sick right now and I can't stand it"


anyways, yeah, this game is a piece of shit and caters to people who love to flip coins for fun.


switch to terran or toss

playing as zerg naturally pisses people off
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Jun 16 2013 06:35pm

Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jun 16 2013 07:31pm)
oh that, yeah, I suck now compared to where I used to be.

obviously still better than the regular posters of this forum and tons more, but the more i play the more I realize I'll never be able to reach a point where I dont have a massive chance @ losing to some skill less fuck doing a scripted note pad build.

was funny though, the biggest motivators to keep going was people like idra and stephano being so much better than me, it made me say to myself "if they can do it so I can I" and they both hate the game and are quitting/did quit.

sidenote: stephanos post advancing from group stage #3 interview:0" the game makes me sick right now and I can't stand it"


anyways, yeah, this game is a piece of shit and caters to people who love to flip coins for fun.


because stephano can't max on roaches in the first 12 minutes of the game and get wins anymore or sit behind a wall of spine crawlers and win with an untouchable army

stephano is great and all but he has always sucked at zvz and did very well in zvp and zvt, and i dont think its a coincidence he's not doing as well in hots

idra is just a bad example to be honest
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Jun 16 2013 06:47pm
i dont even know what youre trying to say tbh

MAN THAT FIGURED OUT NEARLY UNBEATABLE STRATEGIES FOR THE TIME

> WELL HE CANT DO THOSE ANYMORE SO OBVIOUSLY HES GOING TO START LOSING TO BAD PLAYERS DOING SKILL LESS BUILDS AND GO ON TO HATE+QUIT THE GAME

what. yeah I guess thats a good argument.

and that isnt even the point, the point was this game sucks, I never liked it, I bought the game despite hating it, I played the game despite hating it because I saw room for improvement, I kept playing the game because I was good enough to win money and I've been raging at losing to skill less players doing skill less builds the entire time.

the fact that this game allows bad players doing easy things the ability to feel good about themselves, honestly, just eats me alive.
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Jun 16 2013 07:05pm
Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jun 16 2013 07:47pm)
i dont even know what youre trying to say tbh

MAN THAT FIGURED OUT NEARLY UNBEATABLE STRATEGIES FOR THE TIME

> WELL HE CANT DO THOSE ANYMORE SO OBVIOUSLY HES GOING TO START LOSING TO BAD PLAYERS DOING SKILL LESS BUILDS AND GO ON TO HATE+QUIT THE GAME

what. yeah I guess thats a good argument.

and that isnt even the point, the point was this game sucks, I never liked it, I bought the game despite hating it, I played the game despite hating it because I saw room for improvement, I kept playing the game because I was good enough to win money and I've been raging at losing to skill less players doing skill less builds the entire time.

the fact that this game allows bad players doing easy things the ability to feel good about themselves, honestly, just eats me alive.


im saying maybe you were looking up to the wrong players

saturating 3 bases then maxing on roaches or methodically going up to broodlord/infestor with safe opener isnt that different from following a notepad for a 2 base all in
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Jun 16 2013 07:11pm
this conversation is frustrating me

1. theres a big difference, one requires you to never have to see my side of the map and still reach korean GM, the other requires game knowledge and solid understanding and macro for 30 minutes

2. i dont give a fucking shit what his strategies were, the point was that they were always much higher rated than I while I was still struggling to beat shitty players doing shitty builds.

im having the toughest time not to just call you fucking retarded and leave this pointless conversation.

all that needs to be known, is this game is a piece of shit and those that like it are either being paid to play or enjoy flipping coins.

This post was edited by raineplayshalo2 on Jun 16 2013 07:12pm
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Jun 16 2013 07:20pm
Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jun 16 2013 08:11pm)
this conversation is frustrating me

1. theres a big difference, one requires you to never have to see my side of the map and still reach korean GM, the other requires game knowledge and solid understanding and macro for 30 minutes

2. i dont give a fucking shit what his strategies were, the point was that I they were always much higher rated than I while I was still struggling to beat shitty players doing shitty builds.

im having the toughest time not to just call you fucking retarded and leave this pointless conversation.

all that needs to be known, is this game is a piece of shit and those that like it are either being paid to play or enjoy flipping coins.


this is how starcraft has worked since starcraft 1 and broodwar, flipping coins and making choices based on likelihood of success with the trends and strategies changing constantly with the maps getting bigger and better for macro games

the brief time in WoL when you could sit behind spine crawlers and get infestor/broodlord and win almost regardless of the circumstances was an anomaly, not the normal starcraft

this isn't your kind of game so stop playing it if it makes you so angry

call me retarded if you will, but nothing is more retarded than playing a game in your free time that you hate so much for three years

This post was edited by dwalk1989 on Jun 16 2013 07:26pm
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Jun 16 2013 07:54pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Jun 16 2013 03:57pm)
Thinking about getting this, however I never played Starcraft.

Was huge into Warcraft 3, and I was pretty good.

Few questions if someone would be so awesome to answer..

1. Would it be an easy transition? From WC3 - SC2?

2. In WC3 you pretty much played vs a melting pot of people, and sometimes you would end up getting spanked because you got matched with someone who is like 400-30. Is there a ranking system that matches you with people your skill level?

3. Hows the balance?

4. How hard is the learning curve? WC3 it took me about a year to be good...

5. How is the community? I know there's going to be the cocky people who think ( and probably can ) that they can smash everybody in a 1v1.. But are there generally people who don't mind helping you + constructive criticism?

6. Is the game worth it? ( general question )

Sorry for the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, just don't want to regret the purchase :P


1. The game is more macro focused than the micro focus of WC3, but the multi-tasking ability you have from WC3 and the RTS mindset will put you in a good position.

2. There is a match-making system that will place you with people of the same skill, and occasionally slightly above or below your skill level.

3. Balance is very well done, at the moment Terran is slightly stronger than the other races but you can quite easily win with any of the three.

4. Learning curve is pretty high. Since you have prior RTS experience it won't be impossible but it will probably take some time.

5. Community is a mixed bag. If you post replays here you'll find good feedback; if you ask for training partners we have several players who are willing to help you out. There are also a lot of hard-asses.

6. This game is amazing. You're short-changing yourself if you don't play it.
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Jun 16 2013 07:55pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Jun 16 2013 08:20pm)
this is how starcraft has worked since starcraft 1 and broodwar, flipping coins and making choices based on likelihood of success with the trends and strategies changing constantly with the maps getting bigger and better for macro games

the brief time in WoL when you could sit behind spine crawlers and get infestor/broodlord and win almost regardless of the circumstances was an anomaly, not the normal starcraft

this isn't your kind of game so stop playing it if it makes you so angry

call me retarded if you will, but nothing is more retarded than playing a game in your free time that you hate so much for three years


this is my final season playing

and that is not as retarded as it sounds, but i dont want to explain it

if someone had told me that starcraft was a game centered around bullshit then I quite simply wouldnt have ever started it in the first place

which is why whenever i end up talking about starcraft irl, I tell people not to even give it a shot due to it sucking massive amounts of genitals.
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Jun 16 2013 07:57pm
Quote (raineplayshalo2 @ Jun 16 2013 08:55pm)
this is my final season playing

and that is not as retarded as it sounds, but i dont want to explain it

if someone had told me that starcraft was a game centered around bullshit then I quite simply wouldnt have ever started it in the first place

which is why whenever i end up talking about starcraft irl, I tell people not to even give it a shot due to it sucking massive amounts of genitals.


you can be the ghost of d2jsp's starcraft subsection and say how shit the game is from time to time
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