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Jan 15 2013 05:24pm
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Jan 15 2013 01:54pm)
shift clicking observers that are over a protoss base (often following colossus) is easy right?

I remember boxer getting a pimpest play spot because he was able to blind several observers with medivacs and use wraiths to kill carriers in BW





why was it a pimpest play when it's so easy?  Blind has a similar range to the viking in SC2

Edit:  The reason ghosts are in front is because you need to hit EMPs before he storms ... else your shit dies



"not losing" is also not the same as "winning" ... obviously

Because in BW you would have to select each medic individually and tell them to cast blind one by one and you can't shift queue spells ..
Because in BW medics weren't even used in PvT
Because in BW everything actually took skill


In SC2 you see Protoss moving out, scan and shift attk all the observers ( probably 3 or less ), scan again, send cloaked ghost spread out and emp, then 1ta. Not a pimpest play, I've done it so many times, there's absolutely nothing hard about it.

And no, you should never send your ghosts in front unless they're cloaked and there's no observers. There's why you're losing. You're welcome.

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Quote (SmoK1nUp @ Jan 15 2013 05:24pm)
k then play protoss problem solved


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Jan 15 2013 07:45pm
Quote (NoLimit028 @ Jan 15 2013 02:28pm)
Haha, still not enough.





:(


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Jan 15 2013 09:27pm
Quote (Thing1 @ Jan 15 2013 08:51pm)
Late game TvP for the protoss takes 6 apm....

Just played a 35 minute game where I had double the units lost...  I was ahead in upgrade bases etc...

Impossible to force a nice engagement on certain maps.


I guess you forgot to make ghosts.
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Jan 15 2013 09:59pm
Quote (Sigzz @ Jan 15 2013 09:27pm)
I guess you forgot to make ghosts.


No I didn't.

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Jan 15 2013 10:00pm
Quote (Thing1 @ Jan 16 2013 03:59am)
No I didn't.


Mass ghost, you're guaranteed emp's. Lategame pvt is actually retarded. If you're convinced otherwise just watch huk get farmed by korean T's game after game in macro games. Or any other streaming P.
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Jan 15 2013 10:02pm
Quote (Sigzz @ Jan 15 2013 10:00pm)
Mass ghost, you're guaranteed emp's. Lategame pvt is actually retarded. If you're convinced otherwise just watch huk get farmed by korean T's game after game in macro games. Or any other streaming P.


I did. I'll post replay. It was on HotS.

My spread just simply wasnt good enough and I sacked vikings too many times. and I lost atleast 20-30 ghosts through out the game...

I know what I did wrong. Just, it's soooooooooooo easy for protoss is all I'm saying.
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Jan 15 2013 10:06pm
Quote (Thing1 @ Jan 16 2013 04:02am)
I did.  I'll post replay. It was on HotS.

My spread just simply wasnt good enough and I sacked vikings too many times. and I lost atleast 20-30 ghosts through out the game...

I know what I did wrong.  Just, it's soooooooooooo easy for protoss is all I'm saying.


Switch to protoss for two weeks then :) Maybe you will find you like the race more. I often do this when I feel something is easy/faceroll. You'll quickly find that all the races require different skillsets. I honestly feel like with lategame if you pre-concave and just transition right while doing drops/expanding/pfing and making the perfect composition you can do really well. Post rep though. And I'm not sure about lategame hots, so I can't comment entirely on that balance. But I know in WoL, lategame feels way T sided unless T goofs hard.
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Jan 15 2013 10:08pm
Quote (Sigzz @ Jan 15 2013 10:06pm)
Switch to protoss for two weeks then :) Maybe you will find you like the race more. I often do this when I feel something is easy/faceroll. You'll quickly find that all the races require different skillsets. I honestly feel like with lategame if you pre-concave and just transition right while doing drops/expanding/pfing and making the perfect composition you can do really well. Post rep though. And I'm not sure about lategame hots, so I can't comment entirely on that balance. But I know in WoL, lategame feels way T sided unless T goofs hard.


I'm not saying balance. I'm saying amount of control.

Terran takes atleast double the control.
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Jan 15 2013 10:13pm
Quote (Thing1 @ Jan 16 2013 04:08am)
I'm not saying balance.  I'm saying amount of control. 

Terran takes atleast double the control.


I don't know about double, but it takes more, I agree with that. Unless the P is doing WP HT stuff. Then it's about the same. But regardless, you should be happy you get more control options, this allows you to push yourself and actually improve, all P can do is 1a and hope the other guy goofs =(
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