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Nov 20 2012 07:56am
Give it a chance imo. Before, it was a vulnerability to have ghosts or hts ahead of your army because they could easily be fungalled and picked off. I think people will be able to go after infestor energy much more aggressively now without the potential for expensive losses. Could even use those units as bait or a means to scare a zerg army away if your emps and feedbacks are fast and accurate.

The hots fungal nerf on the other hand is way too early. Both protoss and terran early games were buffed with the addition of hots units while zergs was unchanged so now its harder to get to the mid game comfortably AND the mid game infestor option is weaker.
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Nov 20 2012 08:29am
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Nov 20 2012 05:56am)
Give it a chance imo. Before, it was a vulnerability to have ghosts or hts ahead of your army because they could easily be fungalled and picked off. I think people will be able to go after infestor energy much more aggressively now without the potential for expensive losses. Could even use those units as bait or a means to scare a zerg army away if your emps and feedbacks are fast and accurate.

The hots fungal nerf on the other hand is way too early. Both protoss and terran early games were buffed with the addition of hots units while zergs was unchanged so now its harder to get to the mid game comfortably AND the mid game infestor option is weaker.


this is the reason why i'd like to see viper on spire tech

it gives zerg incentive to take spire before broods and opens up viable unit composition moving away from infestor/t3

with vipers on t3, nobody is going to want to skip infestors to mosey into hive tech, but by the time they're on hive, nobody is going to spend for vipers AND infestors. seems like a dipshit move to put a role overlap on hive instead of spire vs. infestor
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Nov 20 2012 09:23am
Probably a step in the right direction. But we'll see, blizz dun goof'd before
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Nov 20 2012 09:55am
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Nov 20 2012 09:56am)
Give it a chance imo. Before, it was a vulnerability to have ghosts or hts ahead of your army because they could easily be fungalled and picked off. I think people will be able to go after infestor energy much more aggressively now without the potential for expensive losses. Could even use those units as bait or a means to scare a zerg army away if your emps and feedbacks are fast and accurate.

The hots fungal nerf on the other hand is way too early. Both protoss and terran early games were buffed with the addition of hots units while zergs was unchanged so now its harder to get to the mid game comfortably AND the mid game infestor option is weaker.


personally I think the early and mid-game should be without infestors ... the extent of terran innovation in HotS is pretty much limited to battle hellions (and widowmines that will likely be defensive or not used at all). So I'm not sure that terran early game is stronger in any significant sense...

Protoss over-committing and recalling back will lead to some very strong aggression though, no doubt

Quote (nerobellum @ Nov 20 2012 10:29am)
this is the reason why i'd like to see viper on spire tech

it gives zerg incentive to take spire before broods and opens up viable unit composition moving away from infestor/t3

with vipers on t3, nobody is going to want to skip infestors to mosey into hive tech, but by the time they're on hive, nobody is going to spend for vipers AND infestors. seems like a dipshit move to put a role overlap on hive instead of spire vs. infestor


once the infestation pit is down, hive is practically free ...... I don't see the problem here. It seems it's just a question between spire or infestation pit first.

Also, even if viper was on spire tech, choosing to drop a spire over infestation pit will mean you've effectively chosen vipers over infestors, just like if it were at the tier 3 level

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on Nov 20 2012 10:03am
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Nov 20 2012 10:02am
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personally I think the early and mid-game should be without infestors ... the extent of terran innovation in HotS is pretty much limited to battle hellions (and widowmines that will likely be defensive or not used at all).  So I'm not sure that terran early game is stronger in any significant sense



once the infestation pit is down, hive is practically free ...... I don't see the problem here


right, you're getting infestor tech to get to hive already, so there's a role AND tech overlap with viper/infestor

if viper was on spire, you could use vipers to transition into the late game instead of infestors, and hit some timing pushes with the viper/spire tech. it gives zerg incentive to go spire again.
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Nov 20 2012 01:35pm
Oh my god I know right?

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Oh my god I know right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngMu_yJ_5Xk


On the bright side, he seemed very enthusiastic about everything he said, I think thats a good thing.
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Nov 20 2012 01:48pm
newsflash to everyone:



He's probably never written a line of code in his life .... just does PR and goes to the meetings
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Nov 20 2012 04:00pm
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Nov 20 2012 02:48pm)
newsflash to everyone:



He's probably never written a line of code in his life .... just does PR and goes to the meetings


wasn't he an english major?
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wasn't he an english major?


Yup
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