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Nov 12 2012 06:09pm
Quote (ZachFreeman @ 13 Nov 2012 01:53)
But I play protoss :(
Another thing is learning to multitask that way isn't really a good way imo as you never just move units around in seperate groups, there is always a reason for moving being map control / bettering your position or harrass. I'd rather play games to better nyself than play custom multitask trainers as I feel it would help me learn faster. Agree?


play random a little, it improves your overall gameplay, because you'll have to do many unfamiliar tasks while playing.
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Nov 12 2012 06:34pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 13 2012 11:09am)
play random a little, it improves your overall gameplay, because you'll have to do many unfamiliar tasks while playing.


Nt a bad idea. Cpt_ghost 2012
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Quote (crazysmoker92 @ Nov 12 2012 03:49pm)
I remember that, coulden't shake the feel that it was more oriented towards silver-platin people.


Still good practice.

Quote (ZachFreeman @ Nov 12 2012 04:53pm)
But I play protoss :(
Another thing is learning to multitask that way isn't really a good way imo as you never just move units around in seperate groups, there is always a reason for moving being map control / bettering your position or harrass. I'd rather play games to better nyself than play custom multitask trainers as I feel it would help me learn faster. Agree?


Sure, best practice is always in a game. But the part about playing Protoss is bullshit, multitasking is multitasking.

Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 12 2012 05:09pm)
play random a little, it improves your overall gameplay, because you'll have to do many unfamiliar tasks while playing.


You also learn the abilities/tradeoffs/weak points in other races' builds. Lets you exploit it even more.

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Nt a bad idea. Cpt_ghost 2012


Indeed.
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Nov 12 2012 07:11pm
3-0 in ladder today

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2rax conc shell/reactor with 3 scvs really punishes any kind of 1 gate FE at low masters.
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Quote (BardOfXiix @ Nov 13 2012 12:07pm)
Still good practice.



Sure, best practice is always in a game.  But the part about playing Protoss is bullshit, multitasking is multitasking.



You also learn the abilities/tradeoffs/weak points in other races' builds.  Lets you exploit it even more.



Indeed.


Practising how to do terran tasks while multitasking is not as helpful as practising how to do protoss tasks while multtasking as those are the tasks I perform in game
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Quote (Thing1 @ Nov 12 2012 06:11pm)
3-0 in ladder today

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2rax conc shell/reactor with 3 scvs really punishes any kind of 1 gate FE at low masters.


Should punish any kind of 1 gate FE at any level tbh.
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Nov 12 2012 10:47pm
I am keeping my bonus pool at zero though :) feels good to play and win a few games for once
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Nov 13 2012 12:49am
Quote (ZachFreeman @ Nov 12 2012 09:39pm)
Practising how to do terran tasks while multitasking is not as helpful as practising how to do protoss tasks while multtasking as those are the tasks I perform in game


you aren't doing ANYTHING terran intensive. do it with protoss. it doesn't matter. you're increasing your apm by controlling many units at once all across the map. that is one way to increase your apm/multitasking.

another way to increase multitasking and overall apm is knowing what to do at every moment throughout the game. I, and I suppose most other players, come to a point in every game where you aren't quite sure what exactly you should be doing RIGHT NOW. whether it be not knowing when or what to transition to, when or if you can take another expansion, when to stop making scvs, etc. the reason pros sustain such a high number of apm is that they have a plan and know exactly how to execute this. they have of course played thousands of refined starcraft 2...

watching streams helps you learn a build and SOMETIMES learn when to do "x" action at "x" time. watch less streams and progress your own starcraft 2 skill. come up with your own builds. experiment. if YOU put the work in, YOU will get better at the game. watching pro streams is you in your dreams. well, study matchups inside and out and maybe you can get up to 200 apm. it's not impossible, it just comes with accurate mouse movement and a very solid understanding of the game.
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Quote (Floooopy @ Nov 12 2012 10:49pm)
you aren't doing ANYTHING terran intensive. do it with protoss. it doesn't matter. you're increasing your apm by controlling many units at once all across the map. that is one way to increase your apm/multitasking.

another way to increase multitasking and overall apm is knowing what to do at every moment throughout the game. I, and I suppose most other players, come to a point in every game where you aren't quite sure what exactly you should be doing RIGHT NOW. whether it be not knowing when or what to transition to, when or if you can take another expansion, when to stop making scvs, etc. the reason pros sustain such a high number of apm is that they have a plan and know exactly how to execute this. they have of course played thousands of refined starcraft 2...

watching streams helps you learn a build and SOMETIMES learn when to do "x" action at "x" time. watch less streams and progress your own starcraft 2 skill. come up with your own builds. experiment. if YOU put the work in, YOU will get better at the game. watching pro streams is you in your dreams. well, study matchups inside and out and maybe you can get up to 200 apm. it's not impossible, it just comes with accurate mouse movement and a very solid understanding of the game.


i've found that it's really great to run through customs and benchmark all your builds, so that you know what you can accomplish under an ideal environment.

and i agree, when i'm helping my roommate benchmark builds, i just practice little things like splitting up lings and scouting with them while i'm injecting on hatcheries spread around the map.

e: i came into starcraft 2 with around 250 brood war apm, when i first started sc2 i dropped down to around 180, then steadily rose to a peak of 330. as you play more and more, you realize the potential actions you can accomplish in quick succession, and that's what drives you to become a faster player.

instead of sitting down and saying, "i'm going to spam and try to play super fast and that's going to make me faster!" you should instead sit down and break down your mechanics, and say, "what can i do to improve upon X mechanic while also maintaining Y mechanic."

This post was edited by nerobellum on Nov 13 2012 02:08am
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