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Jun 20 2011 12:39pm
Quote (ToxicInfinity @ Jun 20 2011 07:39pm)
google my ass old man

i dont care if its relatively better, tvs are good enough.  i sure as hell can never blame a loss on my tv lol


w/e console fag :)

can tell theres no discussion or anything constructive going to come out of you.

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w/e console fag :)

can tell theres no discussion or anything constructive going to come out of you.


be wrong... resort to insults

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Quote (ToxicInfinity @ Jun 20 2011 07:39pm)
google my ass old man

i dont care if its relatively better, tvs are good enough.  i sure as hell can never blame a loss on my tv lol




Quote (ToxicInfinity @ Jun 20 2011 07:41pm)
be wrong... resort to insults

kk



Thx for posting my reply to your post from before.

Maybe i should make a small change

be wrong....throw lame half attempt at an insult

followed by

HURR I DONT CARE ANYWAY TV GOOD ENOUGH

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google my ass old man

i dont care if its relatively better, tvs are good enough.  i sure as hell can never blame a loss on my tv lol


CRT > LED > LCD > First GameBoy monitor > TV
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Jun 20 2011 12:49pm
im not disputing that monitors are relatively faster, im saying it does not give you an edge whatsoever

i think the slowest lcd tv has like a 8ms response time, and the fastest monitor being.. what 1? 7 miliseconds is gonna win you the game? nononono.
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im not disputing that monitors are relatively faster, im saying it does not give you an edge whatsoever

i think the slowest lcd tv has like a 8ms response time, and the fastest monitor being.. what 1?  7 miliseconds is gonna win you the game?  nononono.


my TV has a 5ms response time and it's like 4 years old.

my old lcd had 3ms

This post was edited by TeH SaNdMaN on Jun 20 2011 12:53pm
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]im not disputing that monitors are relatively faster,[/B] im saying it does not give you an edge whatsoever

i think the slowest lcd tv has like a 8ms response time, and the fastest monitor being.. what 1?  7 miliseconds is gonna win you the game?  nononono.


Cant you see the contradiction?

And you dont get it. The response times/screen refresh rate etc difference is important not as much because of your own response time but because the players model is where the server says it is not where your monitor or such is displaying it.

Its not some huge difference but neither is a trackerball or a cheaper laser mouse to a gaming mouse or a $2 keyboard to a gaming keyboard either.

And theres a lot faster paced fps games than Call of Shit btw. Since im assuming thats what FPS game you playu


http://aphnetworks.com/reports/inputlagandyoudell2408wfp

Theres a picture of just on an LCD vs another similar LCD.

Theres a picture of a CRT vs LCD im trying to find which was a lot more prominent. I mean that link has a TINY difference sicne its just two lcds by the same company etc


E : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-4GTvxDqs

Thats not really a great video since its so old and LCD@s have come a long way since in input lag, but you can see the difference since the refresh rate is still the same.

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Cant you see the contradiction?

And you dont get it. The response times/screen refresh rate etc difference is important not as much because of your own response time but because the players model is where the server says it is not where your monitor or such is displaying it.

Its not some huge difference but neither is a trackerball or a cheaper laser mouse to a gaming mouse or a $2 keyboard to a gaming keyboard either.

And theres a lot faster paced fps games than Call of Shit btw. Since im assuming thats what FPS game you playu


you assume a lot. id wager I have the fastest screen here. dlps are clocked at having about 16-20 microsecond response times, and yes that is the rate at which the pixel changes.

the word relative applies again.. my tv is relatively better then your monitor, but it does not give an edge. not that the other games we play apply to this thread derailment but no, i do not play call of duty, theres nothing wrong with fps games though.
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you assume a lot.  id wager I have the fastest screen here.  dlps are clocked at having about 16-20 microsecond response times, and yes that is the rate at which the pixel changes.

the word relative applies again.. my tv is relatively better then your monitor, but it does not give an edge.  not that the other games we play apply to this thread derailment but no, i do not play call of duty, theres nothing wrong with fps games though.


Stop going on about only the response time.

Also, most of the tvs that boast say a low response time or whatever probably use grey to grey rather than black to white response etc. But thats somewhat irrelevant.

heres anotehr example but this LCD is 120hz, most monitors are 60 not 120.

http://3dvision-blog.com/viewsonic-vx2268wm-has-just-a-bit-more-input-lag-than-a-good-crt/

Also, while the MS delay on say your monitor alone may not be much, when you add up the ms delays of all your input devices it can add up somewhat.

Also dont forget your actual ping will play a part here too, as will mouse input lag etc

Please note that i've already said its completely moot really for games liek sc2 though.

Very small things that can add up. Its like squeezing out 10 minerals 40 times during a game f.e back when you could get the extra minerals through the worker queue trick or w/e it was called resulting in an extra expansion

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Jun 20 2011 01:10pm
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as far as I know, there is no 120hz lcd tv is in production for the US. even if its advertised as 120hz they use "motion interpolation" to make it seem like it has 120 fps. its artificial rather then an actual 120hz refresh rate. im a bit of a tv nerd

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but refresh rates wont give you an edge either, you just have to be better

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