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Feb 26 2013 03:23am
Quote (Sigzz @ 26 Feb 2013 10:20)
Depending on how fast you can do it. You can deny bases constantly/ trade and do the attrition thing. counter attacks work well. If you catch it early on, you can shut it down hard. Vipers help a lot, viper hydra~ I've seen people say go muta, but I don't think that's a good idea. I will admit voidray storm /air is very strong. But I think it has always been very good, it's just that in WOL Zerg had winfestors. I think you can still fungal. Just no IT. It is very hard for Z at that point though. Someone told me Skyterran impossible to beat for Z too.


talking about a situation where you hit 3/3/3 and 200/200 with a good sky comp(both p, or t), from there, there is just no hope for zerg.

This post was edited by Cpt_Ghost on Feb 26 2013 03:24am
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Feb 26 2013 07:40am
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talking about a situation where you hit 3/3/3 and 200/200 with a good sky comp(both p, or t), from there, there is just no hope for zerg.


And if you let a protoss/terran get to that point you just deserve to lose.
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Feb 26 2013 07:58am
Quote (Baklap @ 26 Feb 2013 14:40)
And if you let a protoss/terran get to that point you just deserve to lose.


Does it really have to work like that? No.
There are scenarios when you just can't break your opponent, it shouldn't be like that, everyone should have an answer to everything, not meaning to have a hardcounter (wich is again a dumbfuck solution) but to have something to put up a fight with against it. Now that would be a fair game, this isn't. This is supposed to be a strategy game, where two minds try to best eachother with nearly equal conditions, why should time work against one, just by standard?

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This first class is perfect.
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Feb 26 2013 11:11am
Quote (Baklap @ Feb 26 2013 09:40am)
And if you let a protoss/terran get to that point you just deserve to lose.


Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Feb 26 2013 09:58am)
Does it really have to work like that? No.
There are scenarios when you just can't break your opponent, it shouldn't be like that, everyone should have an answer to everything, not meaning to have a hardcounter (wich is again a dumbfuck solution) but to have something to put up a fight with against it. Now that would be a fair game, this isn't. This is supposed to be a strategy game, where two minds try to best eachother with nearly equal conditions, why should time work against one, just by standard?


yeah, the argument where "your early game is better, so it's OK for my lategame to be better" is a really weak argument


Granted you have to look at the game as a whole ... but it should not only be balanced between all 3 races, but in all phases of the game also


Edit: though we suffered through infestor/BL for a very long time .... was never fixed because archon toilet was found to "counter" it

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yeah, the argument where "your early game is better, so it's OK for my lategame to be better" is a really weak argument


Granted you have to look at the game as a whole ... but it should not only be balanced between all 3 races, but in all phases of the game also


Edit:  though we suffered through infestor/BL for a very long time .... was never fixed because archon toilet was found to "counter" it


Infestor/BL was never OP; if it was then Blizzard would have nerfed it but they let it is stay for what...6 months? If not more BECAUSE you CAN BEAT IT with the right unit composition.

If you do not build high templars to feedback the infestors you deserve to lose and you are also retarded as fuck
You can also make voidrays, i´ve seen HuK have 2-3 stargate ready in lategame for it and massed out voidrays to fuck it up, we all know voidrays hard counter corruptor so it is a good choice.
It´s all about having a brain. Alot of BL, no corruptor = stargate and HT to feedback infestors
A decent amount of BL, decent amount of corruptor = less infestors than you would have with no corruptor.

Learn to use your brain, thank you very much.
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Feb 26 2013 12:00pm
Quote (DiabloLord2 @ 26 Feb 2013 18:18)
Infestor/BL was never OP; if it was then Blizzard would have nerfed it but they let it is stay for what...6 months? If not more BECAUSE you CAN BEAT IT with the right unit composition.

If you do not build high templars to feedback the infestors you deserve to lose and you are also retarded as fuck
You can also make voidrays, i´ve seen HuK have 2-3 stargate ready in lategame for it and massed out voidrays to fuck it up, we all know voidrays hard counter corruptor so it is a good choice.
It´s all about having a brain. Alot of BL, no corruptor = stargate and HT to feedback infestors
A decent amount of BL, decent amount of corruptor = less infestors than you would have with no corruptor.

Learn to use your brain, thank you very much.


Can't you just stop posting? Each of your posts just give out cancer to everyone who dares to read them. You are dumb as fuck, go away, thanks in advance.
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Feb 26 2013 12:02pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Feb 26 2013 12:00pm)
Can't you just stop posting? Each of your posts just give out cancer to everyone who dares to read them. You are dumb as fuck, go away, thanks in advance.


I'm just going to block him like I did Toss.
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Feb 26 2013 12:04pm
Quote (DiabloLord2 @ Feb 26 2013 12:18pm)
Infestor/BL was never OP; if it was then Blizzard would have nerfed it but they let it is stay for what...6 months? If not more BECAUSE you CAN BEAT IT with the right unit composition.

If you do not build high templars to feedback the infestors you deserve to lose and you are also retarded as fuck
You can also make voidrays, i´ve seen HuK have 2-3 stargate ready in lategame for it and massed out voidrays to fuck it up, we all know voidrays hard counter corruptor so it is a good choice.
It´s all about having a brain. Alot of BL, no corruptor = stargate and HT to feedback infestors
A decent amount of BL, decent amount of corruptor = less infestors than you would have with no corruptor.

Learn to use your brain, thank you very much.


Blizz didn't nerf it sooner because they are highly incompetent and they don't listen to their community despite what their lackeys tell you on the forums.
Literally everyone knew infestors were imba.
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Feb 26 2013 12:12pm
Quote (DiabloLord2 @ Feb 26 2013 01:18pm)
Infestor/BL was never OP; if it was then Blizzard would have nerfed it but they let it is stay for what...6 months? If not more BECAUSE you CAN BEAT IT with the right unit composition.

If you do not build high templars to feedback the infestors you deserve to lose and you are also retarded as fuck
You can also make voidrays, i´ve seen HuK have 2-3 stargate ready in lategame for it and massed out voidrays to fuck it up, we all know voidrays hard counter corruptor so it is a good choice.
It´s all about having a brain. Alot of BL, no corruptor = stargate and HT to feedback infestors
A decent amount of BL, decent amount of corruptor = less infestors than you would have with no corruptor.

Learn to use your brain, thank you very much.


I'll just keep this short and sweet:

void rays don't hard-counter corruptors (WOL)

Getting slammed by feedback happens when your infestors get too close (AKA you're bad)

even if we say the game comes down to a 50/50 shot on vortex vs neural, (perfectly balanced!) the gameplay is still complete garbage. How many games do we watch where the zerg just sits on a pile of spines because he can't lose unless he attacks?


The only thing keeping the matchup in check was the immortal/sentry all-in, rofl

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on Feb 26 2013 12:14pm
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