1 hatchery production =/= 4 gateway production.

Research = 4gateway production. You know very well Speed upgraded Roach literally owns all Tier 1 units. Of course he has sentries. Your point is to pressure, and expand.
I bet you so much it would work, I'm not even kidding. This is what I'm talking about when I say I don't copy builds from pros. You have to play outside the box.

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/aaMikeD


hes versing it right now

lets see


edit: toss lost ofc

round 2 vs it coming up

edit: round 2 woulda lost (missed pylon placement)

round 3 coming up L

edit: lost round 3 also

he stopped the initial attack, but couldnt counter. zerg had an expo + a decent army

round 4 time LawL

This post was edited by Buffjesus on Feb 7 2011 10:50am

if only you knew how many games ive played and how "not by the book" playing zerg actually is. at no point is zerg as simple as getting 26 probes and producing off 6 gateways and then push. you either understand zerg or you don't, and trust me, 4 gate beats 1 base zerg 99 times out of 30

That's only pretending that your initial plan was to 4gate, then maybe.
When you put someone in your shoes and dictate his build, you have the lead.

Someone who's already planning to perform the 4gate off the bat isn't the one being dictated.

I'm a Zerg player obviously, but other than mentally changing your plan to 4 gate, how hard can going from, say, 3 gate or 1 gate expand into 4 gate be (making the decision mentally) before you've even started your second gateway (assuming you've scouted the very fast roach warren)?

round 4 lost fail wall


round 5 coming up, zerg is 4-0 vs toss so far

edit: lost round 5 also, missed his FF and i think he forgot to wall completely

round 6 up

edit: round 6 he also lost, tried to proxy which zerg found

round 7 coming up

lost round 7 cause pylon placement

round 8 coming up

This post was edited by Buffjesus on Feb 7 2011 11:12am

The time from the 4gate push to a delayed 4gate push.
a 4gate push isn't in effect because it went into a 4gate.
There's a timing window.

its no longer a window when the zergs economy is so bad as much as it is a door or maybe a small fence

I know you're a zerg player. All I'm saying is don't blind yourself from scenarios that aren't impossible.
I promise you there will be a day where someone can legitimately hold off a 4gate off of 1base zerg play and you'll be there to copy it adapt to it instead of finding it.
Just saying, this is what practice is, it's nice to find some results and when you go into a tournament you find yourself doing some funky stuff and everyone will copy it.

the future of zvp or zvt will not be 1 base play (excluding cheese obviously) and this will phase out just like anything else, I promise