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Dec 28 2015 12:25pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Dec 28 2015 01:21pm)
In every matchup, for each player, you can find greedy builds and safe builds but usually the end goal is the same and every game relies on good scouting.


yep. Agreed.

Although without crying too much I feel like it hurts Protoss the most to not scout. Simply due to the different army comps it needs compared to what T/Z can get away with.

So if OP is going Protoss, you really need to focus on scouting.
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Dec 28 2015 12:39pm
Quote (Sigzz @ Dec 28 2015 01:25pm)
yep. Agreed.

Although without crying too much I feel like it hurts Protoss the most to not scout. Simply due to the different army comps it needs compared to what T/Z can get away with.

So if OP is going Protoss, you really need to focus on scouting.


Scouting is important for all races.

But, the only message I am concerned about today is throwing out this despicable definition of the word "metagame". It sickens me to see starcraft players use it in this way.
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Dec 28 2015 12:43pm
Quote (Sigzz @ 28 Dec 2015 19:18)
I think when people use it in sc2 they try to refer to "norms".

But, tbh this should just be a guideline otherwise you end up with stuff like "Oh Protoss always makes only Adept so I need X" and instead of scouting/playing smart you make some dipshit move.

Then you lose and go. WOW YOU FUCKHEAD YOU PLAYED LIKE A TOTAL FAG AND DIDNT MAKE ADEPT THAT I BLIND COUNTERED.

#community


i know now why you struggle against terran :rofl:
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Dec 28 2015 12:48pm
Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Dec 28 2015 01:43pm)
i know now why you struggle against terran :rofl:


Not really.


My PvT is my 2nd best.
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Dec 28 2015 12:57pm
well, its important to know the most common builds. Scouting without knowing what will follow is kinda bad, you want to be a step ahead. so you scout and know what you have to expect and at what time. but keep on scouting anyway. on higher ranks your opponent will do the same and it gets more difficult.
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Dec 28 2015 01:17pm
Quote (Sigzz @ 28 Dec 2015 19:48)


well since ur protoss anything below 80% is struggling.
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Dec 28 2015 01:29pm
Quote (Koryu @ Dec 28 2015 12:29pm)
I use spawningtool and SALT maps sometimes to be aware of the meta and timings

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/

Will also check this out, thanks.
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Dec 28 2015 01:16pm)
the word "metagame" referring to "common builds and strategies" is a result of the LoL community blatantly and repulsively using the word incorrectly

sick freaks


Not sure if this is salt, or just a negative post. Either way, you contributed nothing by saying this. Meta is a thing in any game. Build X could have been something people realized was viable in Season A. Verse Season B another viable and productive build found, that is getting spammed. I noted I'm an SC vet, so I don't need schooling on vocabulary. I asked for assistance in knowledge since I been missing for quite some time. Thanks for the post though man.

E/ I also play random. Picking one race is dull.

This post was edited by joelpwnsx on Dec 28 2015 01:29pm
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Quote (joelpwnsx @ Dec 28 2015 02:29pm)
Will also check this out, thanks.


Not sure if this is salt, or just a negative post. Either way, you contributed nothing by saying this. Meta is a thing in any game. Build X could have been something people realized was viable in Season A. Verse Season B another viable and productive build found, that is getting spammed. I noted I'm an SC vet, so I don't need schooling on vocabulary. I asked for assistance in knowledge since I been missing for quite some time. Thanks for the post though man.

E/ I also play random. Picking one race is dull.


Newbies and veterans alike use the wrong definition. The "metagame" is outside forces influencing the game, not "common strategies". Simple as that.

Like others have suggested, watching streams is the easiest way to learn the game other than just playing it. We have some good streamers here too. Vlare is a good Protoss stream (www.twitch.tv/vlare) to watch, Tao is a good zerg stream to (www.twitch.tv/dystopia). Unfortunately we don't have any good terran streamers here but we used to have the best.
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Dec 28 2015 02:31pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ 28 Dec 2015 20:34)
Newbies and veterans alike use the wrong definition. The "metagame" is outside forces influencing the game, not "common strategies". Simple as that.

Like others have suggested, watching streams is the easiest way to learn the game other than just playing it. We have some good streamers here too. Vlare is a good Protoss stream (www.twitch.tv/vlare) to watch, Tao is a good zerg stream to (www.twitch.tv/dystopia). Unfortunately we don't have any good terran streamers here but we used to have the best.



acutally meta is just a prefix and literraly stands for "after" and "beyond" but it also means "about". For example in metadata or metatags, its information about data
so actually it seems like the new definition fits way better than the old.

this means, talking about the currrent metagame actually means how the game is played at the moment. So imo its valid to say f.e.: the meta in lotv has changed that people take the natural expansion earlier than in hots.
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Dec 28 2015 02:37pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Dec 28 2015 02:34pm)
Newbies and veterans alike use the wrong definition. The "metagame" is outside forces influencing the game, not "common strategies". Simple as that.

Like others have suggested, watching streams is the easiest way to learn the game other than just playing it. We have some good streamers here too. Vlare is a good Protoss stream (www.twitch.tv/vlare) to watch, Tao is a good zerg stream to (www.twitch.tv/dystopia). Unfortunately we don't have any good terran streamers here but we used to have the best.


Tao's stream is twitch.tv/numinous actually ^^ Unless he has 2?

But yes. We have lots of good/knowledgeable people.

As for metagame. Who cares imo :)
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