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Nov 21 2015 01:27pm
So if I want to win all my games with minimal resistance, I should play zerg?
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Nov 21 2015 02:05pm
its terran at higher levels, and zerg at metal league levels
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Nov 21 2015 02:21pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Nov 21 2015 03:05pm)
its terran at higher levels, and zerg at metal league levels


I admired your ladder record Derek, but not anymore. It shit now :(

Liberators seem like they will get nerfed though.
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Nov 21 2015 02:25pm
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I admired your ladder record Derek, but not anymore. It shit now :(

Liberators seem like they will get nerfed though.


there is really no reason for that, at first i thought too, that this'll get nerfed but meh, it isn't necessary
ravagers counter them just perfectly (it kinda forces roach plays from zerg though, but wasn't terran been the underdog in all hots, being forced to play retardedly defensive against blink shits and roach banes throughout hots?)
and in tvp they aren't really that relevant imo
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Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 21 2015 03:25pm)
there is really no reason for that, at first i thought too, that this'll get nerfed but meh, it isn't necessary
ravagers counter them just perfectly (it kinda forces roach plays from zerg though, but wasn't terran been the underdog in all hots, being forced to play retardedly defensive against blink shits and roach banes throughout hots?)
and in tvp they aren't really that relevant imo


i dont know about tvp but i dont think its a stretch to think terran would need to play defensively against roach/bane all in since nearly all terrans went fast 3 CC
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Quote (Cpt_Ghost @ Nov 21 2015 03:25pm)
there is really no reason for that, at first i thought too, that this'll get nerfed but meh, it isn't necessary
ravagers counter them just perfectly (it kinda forces roach plays from zerg though, but wasn't terran been the underdog in all hots, being forced to play retardedly defensive against blink shits and roach banes throughout hots?)
and in tvp they aren't really that relevant imo


I'll get back to you on that.
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Nov 21 2015 04:24pm
Quote (dwalk1989 @ 21 Nov 2015 21:28)
i dont know about tvp but i dont think its a stretch to think terran would need to play defensively against roach/bane all in since nearly all terrans went fast 3 CC


well considering you had no problem opening 3 hatches and the attention i needed to give not to die to a simple amove, yeah, we can say that.
Let's realize, this isn't wol anymore, people have learned how to properly macro and if you have 2 ccs on 2 bases while the zerg has 3 bases you are far behind.
However the sole point is, that forcing the other race to open a specific way didn't seem to be a problem in the past for blizzard, I hope it won't be this time either, since for once terran is on the good end of it.

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well considering you had no problem opening 3 hatches and the attention i needed to give not to die to a simple amove, yeah, we can say that.
Let's realize, this isn't wol anymore, people have learned how to properly macro and if you have 2 ccs on 2 bases while the zerg has 3 bases you are far behind.
However the sole point is, that forcing the other race to open a specific way didn't seem to be a problem in the past for blizzard, I hope it won't be this time either, since for once terran is on the good end of it.


there's a fundamental reason why zerg takes 3 bases quickly, terrans just discovered they could also safely take 3 bases and defend against 2 or 3 base aggression with scouting basically because the hellion exists

it's just the way the game works, if your playing greedier regardless of your race, you usually have to play defensively for a while
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Quote (dwalk1989 @ 21 Nov 2015 23:43)
there's a fundamental reason why zerg takes 3 bases quickly, terrans just discovered they could also safely take 3 bases and defend against 2 or 3 base aggression with scouting basically because the hellion exists

it's just the way the game works, if your playing greedier regardless of your race, you usually have to play defensively for a while


you just can't keep up with someone with a proper macro if you are behind on bases even in tvz, the game used to work like that in wol because everyone sucked major dick at it, but it's really not the point now though, so I won't keep arguing about it. The point here is that the only problem with the liberator that it forces roach opens against terran or you just straight up lose to it, but that shouldn't really be a problem, because of the reasons i've mentioned before.

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Libs in Pvt are disgusting. Get your head out of your ass.
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