How To Fix Protoss - Topic

Protoss has been an abomination of a race design from the beginning. They should just completely redo it, but Kim and Browder have to be the worst developers/designers of all time employed by blizzard.

Get rid of Oracle
Get rid of MSC
Get rid of colossi
Get rid of Warpgate

bring back
Corsairs, instastorm, reavers. and dark archons

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#15

Feb 2 2014 03:20pm

Quote (Starfruit @ Feb 2 2014 02:35pm)

this guy gets it.

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#16

Feb 2 2014 03:27pm

I would fucking love changes and fixes to Carriers.

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#17

Feb 2 2014 05:05pm

Quote (Pk_Dibbun @ Feb 2 2014 02:27pm)

I would fucking love changes and fixes to Carriers.

Maybe remove mothership (it is obsolete now) and make the carrier the new elite unit...

Quote (Starfruit @ Feb 2 2014 06:35am)

I think that reavers would be even more OP than colossi. At least colossi can be sniped with vikings...reavers do buttfucks of splash at buttfuck range. You have to charge through a wall of zealots to get at them, and through a wall of storms to get at them.

Have you ever tried to fight a Protoss with colossi when you didn't have vikings? Remember how much bullshit that was?
Same bullshit with reavers, but no fix.

Reavers weren't OP as fuck in SCBW for PvT because Terran didn't go bio against them. Reavers will kill every marine they hit in their splash radius. Four reavers will destroy 20 marines on the first shot.

The changes need to be made within the current paradigm of Starcraft...we can't just say "SCBW was magical, make it happen again" because the two games are fundamentally different. We need to be looking FORWARD, not backward, if we want anything reasonable to come about.

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#18

Feb 2 2014 06:18pm

Quote (BardOfXiix @ Feb 2 2014 06:05pm)

Maybe remove mothership (it is obsolete now) and make the carrier the new elite unit...

I think that reavers would be even more OP than colossi. At least colossi can be sniped with vikings...reavers do buttfucks of splash at buttfuck range. You have to charge through a wall of zealots to get at them, and through a wall of storms to get at them.

Have you ever tried to fight a Protoss with colossi when you didn't have vikings? Remember how much bullshit that was?
Same bullshit with reavers, but no fix.

Reavers weren't OP as fuck in SCBW for PvT because Terran didn't go bio against them. Reavers will kill every marine they hit in their splash radius. Four reavers will destroy 20 marines on the first shot.

The changes need to be made within the current paradigm of Starcraft...we can't just say "SCBW was magical, make it happen again" because the two games are fundamentally different. We need to be looking FORWARD, not backward, if we want anything reasonable to come about.

meh i play z would rather go vs reavers than the abomination that is colossus, terrans could just get some banshees to snipe reavers or im guessing tanks could be useful in an engagement.
besides reavers are slow as balls and can't climb up and escape

need to look back towards bw since blizzard's forward direction is absolute crap

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#19

Feb 2 2014 10:22pm

From a Zerg perspective, yes reavers would be a godsend xD But you need to look at all 3 MU's. Banshee's aren't the answer--get a few stalkers with your army and always have 1 oracle. Move speed isn't that big a deal since you'll never have to run from an engage with how stupid OP they would be against bio. Even then, most players used shuttles to keep reavers alive and with the army. Warp prisms could do the same thing.

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#20

Feb 3 2014 09:03am

Quote (Perf3ction @ 29 Jan 2014 03:51)

I like the idea of another spellcaster than ht...something like the arbiter would be cool.

Coloss change would be incredibly annoying and they would path like retards...doesnt really add any kind of micro depth imo.

Oracle has needed a nerf since it came out - it's just stupid, so any kind of change would be nice.

I dont like the storm idea so much...but i guess i could live with that since amulet was really nice.

Carriers suck ass and need a serious rework...same with BCs.

Nexus cannon duration is def gonna take a hit - but it wouldnt affect most players too much imo.

I think feedback should cost less mana if you're going to reduce the dmg by 50%.

I dont think these would dramatically change anything...i think some elements of the race need to be totally reworked in order to stop the toss hate :unsure:

carriers are actually shit overpowered and have no counter (except tempests) if you can get out enough

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