More queens to grab a 3rd? I want to grab a 3rd as early as possible and - to my understanding - I can't do that if they open reaper because they should always deny it. Making more queens is the answer to an issue that doesn't exist, I'm not struggling with getting a 3rd, I'm struggling with getting a 3rd at a fast timing. If I were to make more queens, I could grab a 3rd, but by the time I make my 5th and 6th queen, I normally already have speed, so making more queens wouldn't change anything. If you were referring to hellion banshee, I agree with making more queens but I usually hold pretty easily with a handful of speedlings - if I am able open up gasless and secure a decently timed 3rd base. The times when I do have trouble with dealing with hellion banshee are the times when I open gas, in which case I have little room to invest in extra queens, making banshees much more devastating.

This post was edited by coLstory on Jan 6 2014 09:13am

hellion banshee just made a gigantic comeback and its all I play vs

somehow I lose to it way more than Id like to admit, between hellion runbys and trying to get a third asap while being safe from cloak banshees

i dont know what to do either

Early defensive spores even if you don't see banshees, and if you're really struggling against hellions, maybe even go back to that old evo wall thing people did at the natural in WoL before the queen buff.

go 6 queen!

It's better against both!

This post was edited by Burzum on Jan 6 2014 11:56am

http://www.twitch.tv/exp/c/3350644

some peeps gave me links

I was referring to the hellion banshees
well if he opens reaper, you don't take a fast third.

oh nvm, already talked about 6 queen

This post was edited by Burzum on Jan 6 2014 01:27pm

How about a spine at the nat? Spine the nat, pull a queen for the reaper. Costs you 100 minerals and a drone but gives you the defense you need against the hellions plus the ability to move your queen for the reaper.

going to have to go with the "hindered creep spread" option

I always wondered what happened to the walloffs vs hellions...

I see so many zergs die to a bunch of hellions running in and it baffles me

This post was edited by Perf3ction on Jan 6 2014 05:19pm