Except when they delay their third and have a big roach push when you're moving out to pressure.

This post was edited by Dontrunaway on Jul 24 2013 08:34pm

Yeah you should always be actively looking for that 3rd base

As long as you're not playing super greedy you should have either a robo or stargate with a mothership core out to counter any offbeat roach timings too

Yeah well my macro play isn't at plat level and the game keeps putting me vs plats.

My last two games were against plat all ins.

Such a trend with people all inning every game and plateauing at low plat. You have to improve so much to get past it. Also leaving your league doesn't reset your mmr, so fuck that shit. Shouldn't have left.

This post was edited by Dontrunaway on Jul 24 2013 08:43pm

Keep practicing

Pylon scout the zerg, if they're going hatch first then you're safe to nexus first into gateway/forge/pylon wall off at your natural
If its a 4 player map and you feel unsafe then you should always 13forge scout into nexus/gateway/pylon and tech to robo rather than stargate/twilight its easier to control and the safest tech choice of the 3

losing to a 10 pool with gate expand is rough

Those blind build order counters man. They are always rough.

10 pool doesnt beat anything other than nexus first really

maybe if youre trying to do the gate expand with no units which is somewhat common, i guess

but thats your own fault for being needlessly risky

not to mention youre in the low leagues, so you might as well probe scout anyways

I do probe scout but don't have the execution/know how atm to necessarily stop an all in even if I scout it. Even if I manage to hold damage was probably done.

Scenario 1. FFE
If you scout an early pool then build a pylon/cannon in your main mineral line, sacrifice the forge/pylon in your natural and transition to a 1gate/msc expand into 3gate pressure at his 3rd

Scenario 2. Gateway expand
If you scout an early pool then chrono out 2 zealots and let it sit in your mineral lines until the stalker comes out

Scenario 3. Nexus first
Cancel and make a wall around your main mineral line with gateway/pylon and chrono out zealots.

I did 1ge and I canceled nexus and boosted out zealots nonstop and added 2 more gates in main in order to hold vs speedling all in

but then when I got second up and my wall off, I tried to push and he already had a ton of roaches. He had a third but it wasn't saturated in the least he just transitioned into a two base roach hydra all in essentially.

Since he killed probes with his initial zling all in he has free reign for a while.

This post was edited by Dontrunaway on Jul 24 2013 10:04pm