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Jul 21 2013 07:37pm
protoss is retarded

early aggression = MSC lolol

mid-game aggression with drop play = HT feedback lolol

late-game = instantly replenish my army with 20 warpgates and smash a 5 base terran with 3 base 150/200 army with attack move, hey wait psionic storms take skill, pressing T every now and then is harder to micro than stutterstep bio and ghost snipe/EMp
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Jul 21 2013 08:15pm
Quote (canetoado @ Jul 21 2013 09:37pm)
protoss is retarded

early aggression = MSC lolol

mid-game aggression with drop play = HT feedback lolol

late-game = instantly replenish my army with 20 warpgates and smash a 5 base terran with 3 base 150/200 army with attack move, hey wait psionic storms take skill, pressing T every now and then is harder to micro than stutterstep bio and ghost snipe/EMp


vouchhh

you also forgot the part where they can all in you with stuff like blink stalker and msc and just expand behind it after picking off a few scvs and play super greedy like barely making any units teching to robo/colossus/double forge behind a nexus and u cant afford counter bcuz u know msc is going to rape you especially without medievacs

It just amazes me how they don't nerf msc / storm



Only thing we had good late game were hellbats against chargelots and storm but now im getting raped by tons of chargelots again
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Jul 21 2013 09:58pm
Quote (Nevada @ Jul 22 2013 12:15pm)
vouchhh

you also forgot the part where they can all in you with stuff like blink stalker and msc and just expand behind it after picking off a few scvs and play super greedy like barely making any units teching to robo/colossus/double forge behind a nexus and u cant afford counter bcuz u know msc is going to rape you especially without medievacs

It just amazes me how they don't nerf msc / storm



Only thing we had good late game were hellbats against chargelots and storm but now im getting raped by tons of chargelots again


tbh i dont mind that protoss has aggressive options, i think every race should have viable all-ins etc but the fact that protoss are pretty much untouchable at late game is just disgusting.

Also, if a race is supposed to be very strong at the late game, then they should not have a mechanic like the MSC early game which is just retarded

If I were in charge of balancing sc2, Terran's late game in TvP would be similar to how TvZ is: both sides have a good chance and it mainly comes down to skill.

Currently, whenever I beat a protoss in TvP i just feel that their skills are so inherently terrible or they made some terrible mistake. Same as when you watch GSL

Whenever you see a TvP in GSL and the protoss lost, they always made a huge mistake somewhere. If they don't make big mistakes, they can beat terran no problem. The GSL where IMMVP won against squirtle, he cheesed so many protosses on his way to his trophy but as we all know this isn't even possible now in HOTS due to addition of the MSC.


I feel that the game is balanced around the innovation-level or bomber-level terran players (which is fair enough) but that anything under high GM terran is just not suitable unless you're born with like 3 hands or something.

Whereas, protoss is EZ PZ but they are such a boring race lol. I have switched to protoss I have to admit (you can't beat it, join it!) but its boring as fuck
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Jul 22 2013 06:42am
I can taste the tears.
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Jul 22 2013 06:47am
Quote (canetoado @ 22 Jul 2013 03:58)
tbh i dont mind that protoss has aggressive options, i think every race should have viable all-ins etc but the fact that protoss are pretty much untouchable at late game is just disgusting.

Also, if a race is supposed to be very strong at the late game, then they should not have a mechanic like the MSC early game which is just retarded

If I were in charge of balancing sc2, Terran's late game in TvP would be similar to how TvZ is: both sides have a good chance and it mainly comes down to skill.

Currently, whenever I beat a protoss in TvP i just feel that their skills are so inherently terrible or they made some terrible mistake. Same as when you watch GSL

Whenever you see a TvP in GSL and the protoss lost, they always made a huge mistake somewhere. If they don't make big mistakes, they can beat terran no problem. The GSL where IMMVP won against squirtle, he cheesed so many protosses on his way to his trophy but as we all know this isn't even possible now in HOTS due to addition of the MSC.


I feel that the game is balanced around the innovation-level or bomber-level terran players (which is fair enough) but that anything under high GM terran is just not suitable unless you're born with like 3 hands or something.

Whereas, protoss is EZ PZ but they are such a boring race lol. I have switched to protoss I have to admit (you can't beat it, join it!) but its boring as fuck


Terran has no viable all-in vs protoss
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Jul 22 2013 07:11am
Obv Swarmhosts op
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Jul 22 2013 09:30am
hahaha
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allins and cheese are imba.
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Jul 22 2013 10:16am
Quote (Tommyvv @ Jul 19 2013 01:54pm)
a few factory units would have mean alot yes


no
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Jul 22 2013 12:50pm
Quote (IMCL85 @ Jul 18 2013 07:12pm)
late game play correctly p > t easy, proved over and over in proleague and here.


When played correctly, T > P in late game. The problem is that if you don't play it correctly P cleans up easily. Terran beats Protoss if you play perfectly, but if you make a mistake Protoss eats you up.
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Jul 22 2013 01:58pm
Quote (IMCL85 @ Jul 18 2013 10:12pm)
late game play correctly p > t easy, proved over and over in proleague and here.


You mean to say pulling scvs in the mid game and not winning with stim 1a doesn't set you up nicely for the late game? shocking
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