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Jul 10 2013 06:37pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ 10 Jul 2013 19:36)
What division are you in?


silver rank 4 26wins-24 losses just got out of bronze 2-3 games ago

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Jul 10 2013 06:40pm
Quote (gibbles @ Jul 10 2013 08:37pm)
silver rank 4  26wins-24 losses just got out of bronze 2-3 games ago


DT rush

or Void Rays

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Jul 10 2013 06:42pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ 10 Jul 2013 19:40)
DT rush

or Void Rays


the one time i tried void rays (had like 20 3/3) he raped them hard with marines/med (2/1)...and when i try to dt rush they just use their 5+ways to see invisable to rape them..

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Jul 10 2013 07:02pm
in that league, it's all about learning a build.

try a 3gate robo 1 base attack:

12 or 13 gate
13/14 gas
cyber core right after gate
get second gas about 5 seconds after u drop the cyber core
dont forget to actually mine from that second gas when it's done
make workers CONSTANTLY until you have 17 on minerals, 6 for gasses (total 23 workers)
research warp gate immediately at cyber core when it's done!!

make robo a little bit after cyber core (like 10%-20% warpgate research maybe~)

if you stop making workers at any point before 23, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!


when your warpgate tech is at 50%, make 2 gateways at the same time (for a total of 3, hence '3gate robo').

as soon as robo completes (should be done around the time u make ur gates), start making immortals. make 2 of them.
get a mothership core just before this or at least before you push out (sometimes earlier, not a big deal when u get it with a 1 base, just get it when you have the gas).

you can make a stalker + sentry out of the first gateway while it just sits there (after cyber core is done)

when gates are done, morph all 3 and start pumping units. you want like 2-4 sentries (ONLY IF U CAN MICRO THE FFS), bunch of stalkers, and a couple zealots.

so your army = 2 immortals, 2-4 sentries, however many stalkers u can afford, zealots to burn minerals, and finally a mothership core.

push out with this army and pop guardian shield and take a fat dump on the terran until at leaast gold league minimum...



once you can do this, you can learn how to macro and do a bigger version of this exact push. for now, to build confidence, do this every game vs terran lol.

glhf
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Jul 10 2013 07:11pm
Quote (Perf3ction @ 10 Jul 2013 20:02)
in that league, it's all about learning a build.

try a 3gate robo 1 base attack:

12 or 13 gate
13/14 gas
cyber core right after gate
get second gas about 5 seconds after u drop the cyber core
dont forget to actually mine from that second gas when it's done
make workers CONSTANTLY until you have 17 on minerals, 6 for gasses (total 23 workers)
research warp gate immediately at cyber core when it's done!!

make robo a little bit after cyber core (like 10%-20% warpgate research maybe~)

if you stop making workers at any point before 23, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!


when your warpgate tech is at 50%, make 2 gateways at the same time (for a total of 3, hence '3gate robo').

as soon as robo completes (should be done around the time u make ur gates), start making immortals.  make 2 of them.
get a mothership core just before this or at least before you push out (sometimes earlier, not a big deal when u get it with a 1 base, just get it when you have the gas).

you can make a stalker + sentry out of the first gateway while it just sits there (after cyber core is done)

when gates are done, morph all 3 and start pumping units.  you want like 2-4 sentries (ONLY IF U CAN MICRO THE FFS), bunch of stalkers, and a couple zealots.

so your army = 2 immortals, 2-4 sentries, however many stalkers u can afford, zealots to burn minerals, and finally a mothership core.

push out with this army and pop guardian shield and take a fat dump on the terran until at leaast gold league minimum...



once you can do this, you can learn how to macro and do a bigger version of this exact push.  for now, to build confidence, do this every game vs terran lol.

glhf


3gate/robo stopped working vs terran middle of bronze leauge..
though it gives ke a 85%winrate vs protoss

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Jul 10 2013 07:19pm
Quote (gibbles @ Jul 11 2013 01:11am)
3gate/robo stopped working vs terran middle of bronze leauge..
though it gives ke a 85%winrate vs protoss


lol
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Jul 10 2013 07:52pm
your losses don't actually have anything to do with your build at your level
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Jul 10 2013 07:58pm
Quote (Kilala @ 10 Jul 2013 20:52)
your losses don't actually have anything to do with your build at your level


i went from

1-12 (trying to learn how to play)
to 22-15 (once i learned how)
to 26-24 (got cheese for like 6/7 losses the others i just got owned by better players)
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Jul 10 2013 08:01pm
Quote (gibbles @ Jul 10 2013 08:58pm)
i went from

1-12 (trying to learn how to play)
to 22-15 (once i learned how)
to 26-24 (got cheese for like 6/7 losses the others i just got owned by better players)


The ranking system puts you versus progressively harder players once you've shown you can whoop the shit out of your current league. It then keeps giving you harder people until you get your ass kicked, then places you in the league below those players.

Something along those lines.
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Jul 10 2013 10:10pm
Quote (gibbles @ Jul 10 2013 08:11pm)
3gate/robo stopped working vs terran middle of bronze leauge..
though it gives ke a 85%winrate vs protoss


are you really telling me i wasted that time typing this only for you to tell me it doesnt work in BRONZE LEAGUE?

holy shit rofl. this build has worked for me against at least one GM terran, and many, many master terrans. you are obviously doing it horribly wrong. and i'm talking HORRIBLY WRONG to not be able to beat bronze players with it.





trying to state 'facts' when you don't know shit is really not a good way to approach...anything lol.
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