only time i saw it in recent times, i witnessed him transition into 36 mutas, back to ground, back to mutas and then eventually win because his opponent was worse than him and didnt know that archons were good vs everything he had

(naniwa, when floating a ton of money)

Watch parting vs life first series.

Where did you find this build? Its not remotely close to the one Leenock/Life/Jaedong showed off at Dreamhack/GSL, or the ones that I've seen in GSTL/Proleague either.



This post was edited by Hanmin on May 14 2013 03:10pm

the build is basically just an early 1/1 ling build straight into hive. really you could use it to transition into anything. The timings here are specifically for fast hive and 2/2 though, with the bare minimum gas required until hive starts



the 1 gas is a bit of a liquid'ret inspired build, but the fast ultra 2/2 timing idea is from some korean zvp, I have to find it. Basically protoss has a far enough away third (like on whirlwind) that he can't expand early with 1/1 lings out until colossus, and then you shit on his head with ultras


Edit: here's jaedong and leenock's builds:

http://gosugamers.net/starcraft2/features/3234

You can see that JD opted for lair before evo - but that puts him at a risk for some early zealot timings (as he won't finish 1/1 until almost 10:30). Leenock starts 1/1 and then goes into lair. The 2nd and third geysers (at 7 mins) are necessary to hit a good 2/2 completion time. If you're looking to all-in around 15 mins maybe you could delay it, but I don't see the point.

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on May 14 2013 03:56pm

This build is very vulnerable to certain timings and is much harder to pull off than it sounds. It's essentially low econ, with an emphasis on upgraded lings.

Ling run-by and pressuring/canceling the third is a must for this build to work. Going straight to hive is playing incredibly risky and you will no doubt need to make tons of spinecrawlers to defend and possibly infestors (which leenock had to do at dreamhack) if he decides to all-in you.

This post was edited by Zaden245 on May 14 2013 07:20pm

The Jaedong/Leenock/Life build also gets a third way later then 6:00 minutes too. This build you found looks like trash, no wonder Ret is using it.

any gas build pretty much pushes your third back to about 6 minutes


According to that website JD and Leenock take their thirds at 8:00 and 7:30 respectively. I should mention that advertising the fact that you want to suck their tiny korean dicks doesn't amount to a decent argument as for why the third should be later

you can 3 hat and double gas early but pushing back the ultra timing leaves you very vulnerable to colossus all-ins. If I recall correctly leenock was having trouble with gateway pressure from a 1g expand, which explains his late third




not hard at all, try it on ladder often. Like I said the stargate opener is standard and ling armor finishes by 9:30. Also you have 3 gasses that you can use to make roaches in case of an all-in. All I did here was optimize the gas timings for max droning.

Pressuring the third is about as easy as standing on it with lings, cuz without 6 gates or a colossus he won't be able to kill enough lings without +2 zealots. Unless ofc he tries to take a third before 9:30 ... I dont have much experience vs this so I'm not sure

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on May 14 2013 10:38pm

In that build you found, whats the point of taking gases so early? JD/Life/Leenock don't take their 2nd gas until 7:30, and 3rd and 4th at 8:30. They each had to make a shitton of lings to defend/harrass, I'd imagine putting 6 drones to gas so early would leave you with too much gas and vulnerable to any attack. Shit, JD had to produce a fuckton of lings on Starstation just to defend a 4gate zealot harass and stargate.

it's never a good idea to be pouring money into lings vs +1 zealots, so that was likely a mistake by him - not having a roach warren down in time

The gas timings I put down here are the minimum necessary to meet all the timings before hive


Edit: If you feel uneasy at any time the build is easy to abort. Like I said an 8 minute roach warren means you have the option of delaying 2/2 for roaches. Also you could muscle this into a roach max on the fly if necessary also

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on May 14 2013 10:47pm

Life didn't put down a roach warren against Parting, nor did Leenock as well. I dont know where you found that build, but suggesting that you have 3 gases by 7:00, when in their builds they don't even start their 2nd gas until 7:30 is what I find ridiculous.