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some toss just recalled all his mains probes onto my mines in the nat

probably the only way id win a tvp

Tvp won't be balanced until

- They reduce oracles build time + reduce its damage against light units (scvs etc) they can kill like 10 scvs in 2 seconds...its a joke...its also sickening having to make a e-bay at 5 minutes every time they have 2 gas to be 100% safe
- Nerf storm damage and make storm have upgrades (ridiculous that 1 storm if ur ht has 0-0 upgrade can kill 3-3 marauder in the same amount of time as if protoss had 3-3 upgrade)
- Put back the old protoss upgrades cost and nerf its build time or w-e

impossible to be ahead in upgrades vs toss unless u kill their forges and they have the most cost efficient units in the same...add better upgrades to this combination = unbeatable


but we all know nothing of this will happen (maybe the oracle at best) lol

This post was edited by Nevada on Apr 22 2013 11:26pm

Honestly, Protoss air is like the thing I struggle with the least.

If Toss is going for 1 base/proxy oracle it's like auto win for me...

If I go my main build, I can stop it ezzzz. I will lose 4-5 scvs maybe just bcuz oracles are fast and turret dont cover shit except the middle

But its just really annoying having to cut workers a little early on to add a e-bay and build 2 fast turrets if u see 2 gas/missing pylon or some dirty stuff

its like 500 minerals wasted early on just to be 100% safe and not die vs dts or oracles


Sure...I can go 1-1-1 but fuk it I dont like it and hate late stim

I don't go 1-1-1 either. Are you sure they are needed by 5 min?

I go 3 rax/gas/***/add-ons and late port if I feel I'm getting cheesed. I think as long as turrets are complete by 6:30-7 ish your okay.

6:30?

oracle gets to your base at like 5:40

Hm. I just checked a replay from today where I got proxy oracled in it was at my mineral line at 6:15

But yeah, that's why you have to be careful and scout common proxy spots.

Queens > Protoss.

Guy made his build a little slow I guess. I know it can be in terran's mineral under 5:50

But even if u scout proxy...unless u scout it really early like when hes making the proxy pylon or w-e...u wont kill the proxy or the pylon

You're gonna have 2-3 marine, or 1 reaper and nothing else (since u make reactor after)

and when ur gonna try to kill the pylon hes gonna come with his stalker and ur gonna get kited and lose like 3-4 marines for free
or might just get ur natural attacked by a zealot mothership core and stalker...and lose

at least what I noticed is even if I spot the proxy I cant kill it...its either too far (walking wise) etc

sure one game in a while u might end up killing the proxy maybe but didnt happen to me yet..lol

Yeah I know.

Another way to go about it is a bunker right by the mineral line.