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Apr 10 2013 08:09pm
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Apr 11 2013 07:08am)
dt builds are gay as fuck ... unscoutable garbage builds






Tastosis were discussing the build last night for the GSL games ..... its 100% safe with MSC if you scout the terran expand and with the cheaper dark shrine it costs you almost nothing


How is it unscoutable? Do you not build orbitals?
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Quote (ZachFreeman @ Apr 10 2013 10:09pm)
How is it unscoutable? Do you not build orbitals?


sure ... and scanning the dt shrine is a complete gamble.


Or I can waste 4 MULE's worth of scans to make sure there's no additional tech

Quote (coLstory @ Apr 10 2013 07:26pm)
Tastosis are like mid masters and dt shrine only means it's 100gas cheaper


sure, coupled with the MSC that allows greedy play like crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy and free marine/scv kills with a time warp on SCVs. It all adds up to a WAYYYYYYYYY stronger build than WoL

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sure ... and scanning the dt shrine is a complete gamble.


Or I can waste 4 MULE's worth of scans to make sure there's no additional tech


Building scvs is over rated. Gimme dem mules.
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Apr 10 2013 08:12pm
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Building scvs is over rated. Gimme dem mules.


every mule is 270 minerals not mined over the next 90 seconds


= 4+ scv deficit for 90 seconds. Terran scouting is by far the worst of the 3 races (aside from the reaper timing which is fantastic)

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Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Apr 11 2013 02:12am)
every mule is 270 minerals not mined over the next 90 seconds


= 4+ scv deficit for 90 seconds. Terran scouting is by far the worst of the 3 races (aside from the reaper timing which is fantastic)


you're a retard

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you're a retard


wtb invisible flying unit or hallucinated phoenix






there is no question that terran scouting is worse than both z and P. Accurately scouting 2base protoss builds as T is pretty much impossible

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Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Apr 11 2013 02:39am)
wtb invisible flying unit or hallucinated phoenix






there is no question that terran scouting is worse than both z and P.  Accurately scouting 2base protoss builds as T is pretty much impossible


Yeah it's not like you can't speedboost medivacs 6-8minutes into the game through P's entire base WHILE widow mine dropping him. It's not like you can speedbost a medivac through P Base ANYTIME you want knowing it wont die unless he randomly has like 8stalkers chilling in the middle of his base. And even then you can turn around. Maybe you're just retarded.
Widow mine drops are free scouts. You see EVERYTHING if you do it right. l2p little retard. Terran is fucking amazing.

What about hiding scvs? What about scans? Maybe poking with a marine or scv to see army comp? Hmmmfff hard times being Terran.

Edit: And vs Zerg, they have even less anti air than Protoss. not to mention Hellions are a great indication of what's up

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Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Apr 10 2013 07:39pm)
wtb invisible flying unit or hallucinated phoenix






there is no question that terran scouting is worse than both z and P.  Accurately scouting 2base protoss builds as T is pretty much impossible


Clearly you suck at scans. Someone didn't go to the Curbelo school of "when the fuck do I scan a Protoss player?"
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Yeah it's not like you can't speedboost medivacs 6-8minutes into the game through P's entire base WHILE widow mine dropping him. It's not like you can speedbost a medivac through P Base ANYTIME you want knowing it wont die unless he randomly has like 8stalkers chilling in the middle of his base. And even then you can turn around. Maybe you're just retarded.
Widow mine drops are free scouts. You see EVERYTHING if you do it right. l2p little retard. Terran is fucking amazing.

What about hiding scvs? What about scans? Maybe poking with a marine or scv to see army comp? Hmmmfff hard times being Terran.

Edit: And vs Zerg, they have even less anti air than Protoss. not to mention Hellions are a great indication of what's up


2base all-in hits right around medivac time (or before) and so super-medivac isnt useful for scouting



Hiding scvs does the same as the reaper, which I mentioned, and scanning works only if tech is in an obvious location


Edit: most protoss do have "8 stalkers randomly chilling in the middle of his base". If he doesnt, he's likely already across the map and that drop just fucked me over

Quote (BardOfXiix @ Apr 10 2013 11:03pm)
Clearly you suck at scans.  Someone didn't go to the Curbelo school of "when the fuck do I scan a Protoss player?"


see above

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2base all-in hits right around medivac time (or before) and so super-medivac isnt useful for scouting



Hiding scvs does the same as the reaper, which I mentioned, and scanning works only if tech is in an obvious location


Edit:  most protoss do have "8 stalkers randomly chilling in the middle of his base".  If he doesnt, he's likely already across the map and that drop just fucked me over



see above


You don't have to see the units, you have to see the buildings.
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