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Feb 26 2013 11:32am
Protoss 1a toddler race.
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Feb 26 2013 11:36am
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Feb 26 2013 12:32pm)
Protoss 1a toddler race.


indeed
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Feb 26 2013 11:38am
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Im currently diamond in hots, playing masters players, will probably get promoted soon. However, I get nervous and do cheesy shit way too often. I was mid masters in WoL

Ill void ray all in vs T all the time..
Have a hard time vs Z.. either I all in and win or get out macroed hard
Protoss I pretty much just 1 base and its my best matchup, I have a good win %, but its not the way I want to play and definitely wont get me to top masters

I've been playing unranked, and just macroing and defending instead of doing lame timings.

I'd like someone to help me with some builds to work off of, especially PvZ. I know I just need to grind out games, but Im fucking up stupid builds. I dont know when to take a 3rd, how to defend it, when/how to pressure zerg's expos.

Ill pay in fg or something. I think i just need someone to yell at me on skype so i quit being bad


you can start with 20 pushups

Quote (DiabloLord2 @ Feb 26 2013 01:13pm)
Hellbat ->
Widow Mine ->
The fact that Hellbat can both be repaired and healed by a medivac ->


Protoss
Skytoss ->

3 OP shit about Terran
1 OP thing about Protoss

You go to bed little kid.


lol lets see you come up with a zerg composition that beats an assload of templar/zealot and void ray/oracle/tempest

not going to happen

think of a terran compisition that has even close to the same power

not going to happen

This post was edited by Pants1 on Feb 26 2013 11:41am
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Feb 26 2013 11:43am
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Feb 26 2013 11:32am)
Protoss 1a toddler race.


Correct.
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Feb 26 2013 11:54am
Quote (dwalk1989 @ Feb 26 2013 12:32pm)
Protoss 1a toddler race.


Vouch.
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Feb 26 2013 12:51pm
Quote (Pants1 @ Feb 26 2013 09:38am)
you can start with 20 pushups



lol lets see you come up with a zerg composition that beats an assload of templar/zealot and void ray/oracle/tempest

not going to happen

think of a terran compisition that has even close to the same power

not going to happen

That comp sucks, if you had said "void ray, templar, carrier" then I'd have trouble. If they go VR/Oracle/Tempest you just make corrupters doh
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Feb 26 2013 12:57pm
Quote (820 @ Feb 26 2013 02:51pm)
That comp sucks, if you had said "void ray, templar, carrier" then I'd have trouble. If they go VR/Oracle/Tempest you just make corrupters doh


well as far as i know zealots help protect the templar, and minigun doesn't make carriers as part of his final deathball (he said he makes them by accident a lot)

i mean the most important thing is void rays/templar ofc, but i dont exactly play hots on a gm level, and im a terran, im just going based on streams i watch

but don't lose sight of the bigger message here that toss is grotesquely op

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well as far as i know zealots help protect the templar, and minigun doesn't make carriers as part of his final deathball (he said he makes them by accident a lot)

i mean the most important thing is void rays/templar ofc, but i dont exactly play hots on a gm level, and im a terran, im just going based on streams i watch

but don't lose sight of the bigger message here that toss is grotesquely op


i have a 65+ win% ZvP

skytoss is actually kinda immobile and you can easily abuse drops / counter attacks to make the toss poor. I've gone pure ling/ultra vs skytoss and just kept killing their bases and ignoring the air and that works sometimes too lol

if zerg builds hydras they auto-lose vs templar/air no matter how ahead they are...yet they keep building hydras.
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Feb 26 2013 01:10pm
Quote (820 @ Feb 26 2013 03:06pm)
i have a 65+ win% ZvP

skytoss is actually kinda immobile and you can easily abuse drops / counter attacks to make the toss poor. I've gone pure ling/ultra vs skytoss and just kept killing their bases and ignoring the air and that works sometimes too lol

if zerg builds hydras they auto-lose vs templar/air no matter how ahead they are...yet they keep building hydras.


well you could load up a lot of banelings inside overlords and fly them into the skytoss.

when the overlords die, the banelings with explode in the air and decimate the clumped void rays


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Feb 26 2013 01:12pm
Quote (820 @ Feb 26 2013 08:06pm)
i have a 65+ win% ZvP

skytoss is actually kinda immobile and you can easily abuse drops / counter attacks to make the toss poor. I've gone pure ling/ultra vs skytoss and just kept killing their bases and ignoring the air and that works sometimes too lol

if zerg builds hydras they auto-lose vs templar/air no matter how ahead they are...yet they keep building hydras.


It sounds like you play vs gold players...A GOOD Masters Protoss would just cannon at the edge of his base because Protoss realise that drops would fuck his production up. And on certent maps the third and natural is very close to each other, on those maps there is 0% chance you will be able to base trade if he is decent, against bronze you might succeed.
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