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Quote (Sigzz @ Feb 4 2013 10:45am)
also have to mine some gas + make extractors, try doing it. it'll mess up your timings


Make 1 extractor, mine gas when you see his scout coming in. Use the 100 you mine for speed. There are ways of pulling this off.
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Quote (BardOfXiix @ Feb 4 2013 06:08pm)
Make 1 extractor, mine gas when you see his scout coming in.  Use the 100 you mine for speed.  There are ways of pulling this off.


yeah, you can do it. I feel like in hots, this wont force anything bcause of msc. maybe air? are you taking the warren before third? because that will mess up your econ. if its after, he prolly wont even scout it because of queens and lings.
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Quote (BardOfXiix @ 4 Feb 2013 18:14)
It only works against people who understand what a roach rush can do...so quite the opposite.  It's like canceling gas geysers after getting them scouted to throw your opponent off...roach warren costs 150 minerals so it's not a HUGE investment.  Even if you let it finish, it's a queen.


Was quite thinking how it would look like against terran. Totally pointless. Against toss, however... it's still a terrible idea.
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Quote (Sigzz @ Feb 4 2013 11:28am)
yeah, you can do it. I feel like in hots, this wont force anything bcause of msc. maybe air? are you taking the warren before third? because that will mess up your econ. if its after, he prolly wont even scout it because of queens and lings.


It would have to be before a 3rd...otherwise there's literally no point.
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Feb 4 2013 09:47pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Feb 4 2013 02:08pm)
Make 1 extractor, mine gas when you see his scout coming in.  Use the 100 you mine for speed.  There are ways of pulling this off.


I think the point is simply that you won't force anything from the terran





7 roach pressure is pretty much held with what you have in TvZ. It's not scoutable and you generally have 2 hellions by the ti me it completes. A second bunker won't really help and you don't have time to reactively tank or banshee. The most you'll get is a marauder

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I think the point is simply that you won't force anything from the terran





7 roach pressure is pretty much held with what you have in TvZ.  It's not scoutable and you generally have 2 hellions by the ti me it completes.  A second bunker won't really help and you don't have time to reactively tank or banshee.  The most you'll get is a marauder


Well I would imagine that you'd do it to force the Terran to play defensive, as opposed to having hellions run around the map giving map control. It also may delay the expansion. The purpose isn't to make him do some huge commitment to something stupid, it's to make him not be aggressive/play less greedy. Or at least that's how I'd view it. I'm not the OP though, so don't let me put words in his mouth.

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