neg, 2nd most

this map newkirk is even worse than antiga for zvt

why is that ?

it's deceptively big, there dead airspace between the spawns makes it difficult to scout with your initial overlord, the main is huge so it's easy to get proxy'd (zvp mostly, but still applies to zvt in some cases), it's deceptively small and there's no room to spread for engagements because of the placement of walls, the close lowground third is incredibly easy to defend, and trying to get beyond the 4th is near impossible. not only that, but because of the way the limitations on the map work, if you try to harass the main with mutas, you can't fly around behind the main to get to the natural, you have to go all the way around the front, otherwise you'll get eaten by marines. there's no deadspace over the main/natural/third, so it's just a poor map for zerg.

e: the only redeeming quality for zvt on that map is that, since it's a bad muta map, it's also a bad drop map.

This post was edited by nerobellum on Jan 11 2013 06:51pm

why do yo uneed to maneuver for engagements?

the terran gets one good push before broodlords and that's all you need to survive lol



I dont know where you pulled this information from but you should feel bad

it's just not a good map for my style. i don't much care for akilon flats either because i've yet to play a terran who doesn't mech on that map, and when you open spire and see a terran going mech it's like pulling teeth unless he decides thors are just buzz units.

i'll be content if hots does me good by shifting some incentive back to spire.

I find spire still useful, make a round of mutas and then immediately switch off



but ZvMech is not a fun matchup, we can agree on that

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on Jan 11 2013 07:37pm

LOL blizzard is trying everything they can to completely get rid of mutalisks in zvt in hots

yes.

If only infestors weren't so damned good.

the regen change is nice