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Jan 4 2013 06:20pm
Quote (Death_killaxx @ Jan 4 2013 05:53pm)
3 hatch build.

Ling Roaches .

hit injects. Catch him leaving his base = gg



Totally disagree with almost everything there.
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Jan 4 2013 06:42pm
Quote (sephiroth_117 @ Jan 5 2013 11:20am)
Totally disagree with almost everything there.


you will disagree with 100% of huis posts
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Jan 4 2013 07:12pm
Quote (ZachFreeman @ Jan 4 2013 06:42pm)
you will disagree with 100% of huis posts



lol, will try.
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Jan 4 2013 07:47pm
if you're below diamond you can drone to 75-80, take +1 carapace and start roaches at normal time, 3 gas at 6:30, get ling speed and start producing pure ling at around 8:15, and mix in roaches to pick off sentries. you can take roach speed if you want. engage mid field to surround the push before he can reinforce with warp prism and to waste sentry energy, and then back off. continue doing this until you can engage and kill the push. add some spines at your third when you see him start to move out, and don't be afraid to move them to your nat if he backs off to try to go around.

to scout it, check his main nexus at 7:15 to see if he's still producing probes, if there's no twilight council, or you see him adding his 3rd and 4th gas around 5:30 - 6:45 with no third shortly afterwards, these are all signs of immortal/sentry.

if all this is happening on ohana, you're pretty much fucked.

rough build:
15 pool
15/16 hatch
take third around 4:15
make 2 lings and scout around your third/natural for pylons/cannons
take a macro hatchery when you start floating enough for one and add a 4th queen
3x gas at 6:30
@100 gas, lair
@100 gas, ling speed
@1/4 lair, roach warren
@150 gas, carapace
@8:15 produce units, mostly lings with some roaches mixed in
@100% lair, infestation pit and pathogen glands when complete

overlords at 9/16/24/33/40
don't miss your injects
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Jan 4 2013 08:28pm
Quote (nerobellum @ Jan 4 2013 09:47pm)
if you're below diamond you can drone to 75-80, take +1 carapace and start roaches at normal time, 3 gas at 6:30, get ling speed and start producing pure ling at around 8:15, and mix in roaches to pick off sentries. you can take roach speed if you want. engage mid field to surround the push before he can reinforce with warp prism and to waste sentry energy, and then back off. continue doing this until you can engage and kill the push. add some spines at your third when you see him start to move out, and don't be afraid to move them to your nat if he backs off to try to go around.

to scout it, check his main nexus at 7:15 to see if he's still producing probes, if there's no twilight council, or you see him adding his 3rd and 4th gas around 5:30 - 6:45 with no third shortly afterwards, these are all signs of immortal/sentry.

if all this is happening on ohana, you're pretty much fucked.

rough build:
15 pool
15/16 hatch
take third around 4:15
make 2 lings and scout around your third/natural for pylons/cannons
take a macro hatchery when you start floating enough for one and add a 4th queen
3x gas at 6:30
@100 gas, lair
@100 gas, ling speed
@1/4 lair, roach warren
@150 gas, carapace
@8:15 produce units, mostly lings with some roaches mixed in
@100% lair, infestation pit and pathogen glands when complete

overlords at 9/16/24/33/40
don't miss your injects


75-80 ? lolz.


60 drone timing is ~ 8 mins, if you drone to 75 you're already fucked

Also teh roach warren needs to be ready by 8 mins or you risk eating a zealot heavy timing at your third

Macro hatch is ~ 8 mins also, not before 6:30.



The key to beating the immortal/sentry doesn't rely solely on correct macro ... you need to take his nat/basetrade/muta/infestorling

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on Jan 4 2013 08:32pm
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Jan 4 2013 08:28pm
Don't drone to 80 and expect to hold the push
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Jan 4 2013 08:30pm
i think he means at the 8 minute mark.
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Jan 4 2013 08:44pm
Quote (eyewuvd2 @ Jan 5 2013 01:28pm)
75-80 ? lolz.


60 drone timing is ~ 8 mins, if you drone to 75 you're already fucked

Also teh roach warren needs to be ready by 8 mins or you risk eating a zealot heavy timing at your third

Macro hatch is ~ 8 mins also, not before 6:30.



The key to beating the immortal/sentry doesn't rely solely on correct macro ... you need to take his nat/basetrade/muta/infestorling


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Jan 5 2013 01:14am
Quote (sephiroth_117 @ Jan 4 2013 06:12pm)
lol, will try.


You lose all day to the push i've seen it happen.
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Jan 5 2013 02:35am
Quote (Death_killaxx @ Jan 5 2013 01:14am)
You lose all day to the push i've seen it happen.


Yeah, but i have skill enough to win macro games.
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