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Dec 22 2012 04:03pm
Quote (Thing1 @ Dec 22 2012 04:16pm)
I haven't seen mech work well.





I dunno what other robo or gateway units they could mix in, they already have a unit for every role you would want



If you force him to get a turret that quick just by building oracle, that's a win right there.


Widow mines, battle hellions, whatever else, ???

and it costs 150/150 for an oracle
I don't see how 75 minerals for 150gas for oracle + 150gas for stargate is a win
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Dec 22 2012 04:09pm
Quote (Butt_Commander @ Dec 22 2012 04:13pm)
Ghosts need a buff in HoTs. They are just bad compared to HT/Winfestor/Viper/anything in the game.
Terran in general just isn't as good as the other 2 races i feel.


Medvac buff so strong, bio was already soo good.
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Dec 22 2012 04:16pm
To be honest, the game seems like it is a little less responsive than WoL.. (dunno why)

And the huge circles when you shift queue units to move, the big circle is annoying.
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Dec 22 2012 04:27pm
Quote (LegendaryIcicle @ Dec 22 2012 05:03pm)
Widow mines, battle hellions, whatever else, ???

and it costs 150/150 for an oracle
I don't see how 75 minerals for 150gas for oracle + 150gas for stargate is a win


you don't even know how much a missile turret costs.


Oracles are a risky unit. If they aren't prepared, they take damage. If they are, they take none. Isn't it literally the exact same thing with dts? Sure, dts have more use late game, but early game use is LITERALLY the exact same thing.
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Dec 22 2012 04:29pm
Quote (Floooopy @ Dec 22 2012 05:27pm)
you don't even know how much a missile turret costs.


Oracles are a risky unit. If they aren't prepared, they take damage. If they are, they take none. Isn't it literally the exact same thing with dts? Sure, dts have more use late game, but early game use is LITERALLY the exact same thing.


The way I see it, Oracle has long term use even if it doesn't do initial direct dmg, time warp is better than even ff. Even if u can't kill workers with it, it's like a must unit late game.

This post was edited by high_king_q on Dec 22 2012 04:30pm
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Dec 22 2012 04:30pm
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The way I see it, Oracle has long term use even if it doesn't do initial direct dmg, time warp is better than even ff.


Yeah I forgot about that. In terms of cheesy builds, oracles = dts.
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Dec 22 2012 04:31pm
Quote (Floooopy @ Dec 22 2012 05:30pm)
Yeah I forgot about that. In terms of cheesy builds, oracles = dts.




It's also very effective against early roach push.
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Dec 22 2012 04:32pm
Quote (Hanmin @ Dec 22 2012 01:13pm)
I kind of wish Protoss got another gateway unit maybe, maybe even another robo unit?

Oracle kind of feels a little bit gimmicky.


Thisssssssssssss I want some variation in the Protoss ground play, not just the air play.
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Dec 22 2012 04:39pm
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To be honest, the game seems like it is a little less responsive than WoL.. (dunno why)

And the huge circles when you shift queue units to move, the big circle is annoying.


I agree with this.

And I'm an idiot because I thought you only needed cyber to get oracle LOL

Still, I stand by my original post.
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Dec 22 2012 05:25pm
Quote (Floooopy @ Dec 22 2012 06:27pm)
you don't even know how much a missile turret costs.


Oracles are a risky unit. If they aren't prepared, they take damage. If they are, they take none. Isn't it literally the exact same thing with dts? Sure, dts have more use late game, but early game use is LITERALLY the exact same thing.


I played Terran like 10 times in SC2
I remembered 75 cause thats what they cost in BW

The only viable PvT stargate opener I thought of was to counter cloaked banshees with oracle/voidrays
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