you won't be able to bring any basics close to this kid. just don't waste your time

my play and understanding is far superior than most people's, i just barely play this game and my mechanics suck.
your arguement is invalid.

LOL Typical response. No one has the understanding of a high level player until they're actually high level themselves, I understand this because I used to suck like you. People should just disregard all balance suggestions from low level players.

I was trying to argue around a well known fact, that lategame protoss is stronger than lategame terran, even blizzard has admitted this, it has nothing to do with the level i play at.
I just threw up a might be good solution to discuss since it's a forum. It failed.
If any of you could have reasoned, why is it bad, it would be okay to argue over it, but you guys are just retarded.

This post was edited by Cpt_Ghost on Jul 23 2012 06:36am

You realize that Terrans have better economy throughout the game, therefore they should have to pay more for w/e. Protoss can barely afford their ups in the current way things work....

dunno why u complain about toss when terran is getting raped by zerg hard

yes toss has huge advantage in terms of upgrading especially since colossus get 3/3 much faster than u can get anything into vikings and then fuck you hard but that's game design and you really cant nerf toss too hard; maybe a slight mechanic change to terran. this has been an issue since the beginning of the game before any toss upgrade buffs or even when tosses realized we had chronoboost

i'd say for pvt terrans should have the ability to add viking/ghost tech better with slightly less risk versus where today you just see a protoss run away completely with the game during the 2/2 stage and the terran can't do jack to come back (this is more prominent outside grandmaster's league since terrans usually fuck up less in GM/high masters). How I don't know but robo-only upgrades seem really stupid (making colo an air attack though seems interesting)

now that's an arguement.

gimme a few minutes, bg started, will react later.

Blizzard says something so it's true?
Just because you're sitting in your Willy Wonka Dexter's Laboratory of SC2 theorycrafting and think you came up with a solution to a problem that has already corrected itself means nothing. Your "solution" doesn't even address your hypothetical problem rotfl, lategame would assume that Protoss would still have full upgrades, all you are suggesting is buffing the Terran early/midgame even further.

As for addressing your idiotic "solution" in itself, outside of the goal, it is just idiotic. Do you want to compare Protoss gateway units to Terran infantry? Terran's infantry upgrades upgrade their entire composition, so does the Protoss. Splitting up the Protoss upgrades is just stupid, you want an entire upgrade set for colossus and immortals? The only real unit that we use throughout the game ( occasionally at that ) is the colossus, so basically you want to make it so that the regular Protoss upgrades affect all ground units aside from the Colossus and the 1 or 2 Immortals that we'll have in our army?

You can argue that "WELL ZOMG TERRAN FACTORY UPGRADES IS ONLY FOR HELLION,THOR,TANK SO IT'S COMPARABLE!" Well no, it's not. Even if Terran infantry upgrades affected the factory units they still wouldn't use them whereas Protoss robotics units are essential to our composition. This is all ignoring the fact that you're uninformed and are awful at the game, there is no real Protoss advantage in the late game. The problem is when Terrans let Protoss play incredibly greedy and go into the lategame already ahead because Terran doesn't put any real form of pressure on. Right now there is no real way for Protoss to deal with mass cloaked ghosts, it's really easy for Terran to utterly devastate a Protoss army with 1 good engagement set up by cloaked ghosts/mass EMP. There's been a disgusting amount of games recently completely won with just that.

By the way, you don't suck because your mechanics suck, you suck because you're a moron. I can get to Masters without a keyboard, you're just a fucking fail who relies on excuses as to why you're bad.

u mad and bad

either way late game isnt what kills terran

its the transition to lategame that allows toss to max out on colo/ht with ups that makes terran so behind

kinda how its hard for terrans to fight BL infestors since zergs always tech there with econ lead and lots of creep/bank

terran is one of those races where people seem to have to apply a ton of pressure but seem to be unable to transition out if the pressure does insufficient damage

there's no argument that even without a significant lead you can still quite easily win a late game against toss/zerg given you're not behind by lategame and you know what you need to do

too many terrans think maxing out is a close game where they lost cuz OP. Just like how lots of toss think BL/infestor is OP cuz their maxed colo/stalker army cant win against it. Just like how zergs think toss is OP cuz their 12 minute maxed ling/roach cant kill the opponent even though they specifically designed their build to take a third and be able to hold said zerg attack.