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Mar 4 2014 06:44pm
vs zerg 73%
vs terran 76%
vs protoss 31%

gah cant win these and its wrecking my ranking. Top diamond player, pvp is keeping me from masters..

Usually scout after pylon to check for cheese (2g, proxys etc) and after I drop cyber for 1 base allins.

Try to react, 4g (3g robo), dts (1g robo expand or fast forge), 2g zeals proxy (chrono 2 sentries then chrono stalkers out) etc
can never get the upper hand though.

The 31% came from macro games and 4g vs 4g.

Any advice?
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Mar 4 2014 06:46pm
Classic protoss, only has problems vs protoss.
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Quote (NoLimit028 @ Mar 4 2014 06:46pm)
Classic protoss, only has problems vs protoss.


Too much all ins for my likings, shoulda been zerg i guess.
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Mar 4 2014 07:33pm
zvp 68%
zvt 63%
zvz 42%

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Mar 4 2014 07:34pm
it's the opposite for me... I believe I have a 70% winrate vs toss...and about 55%~ vs the other races.

I open stargate almost every single game. I don't even get the oracle anymore unless I know they are not going SG...in which case I need detection until robo is up and can do some extra potential harass.

If my opponent is going SG as well, I never make an oracle and it becomes a phoenix macro battle (that initial phoenix basically wins you the game if they chose oracle - phoenix shits on it in like 5 seconds and you have a pho advantage early on)

Sometimes I do a 1base phoenix timing with 3 gates...which works incredibly well as long as they are not going dt. It is particularly strong when they go robo, since the phoenix completely negate the immortals :D.



My advice to you is to consider stargate more...phoenix battles/air superiority in this matchup are absolutely awesome. You can kill a ton of probes with them too, and scout your opponent the entire game - also comes with the bonus of shitting on void ray massing players.

gl

This post was edited by Perf3ction on Mar 4 2014 07:36pm
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Quote (Ramen1337 @ Mar 4 2014 06:48pm)
Too much all ins for my likings, shoulda been zerg i guess.


I hope you're joking. Every single zvz game on ladder is someone trying to ling bane allin you. At least as protoss you have different allin's that you can do......

This post was edited by x]FoRsaKeN[x on Mar 4 2014 07:34pm
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Quote (NoLimit028 @ Mar 4 2014 07:46pm)
Classic protoss, only has problems vs protoss.


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Mar 4 2014 11:04pm
PvP has always been a very unforgiving match up, it takes a lot of scouting and knowing whats happening to u vs countering it while gaining an eco lead.
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Mar 5 2014 02:30am
Looks like protoss in your games are winning over 70% of their games.
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Quote (x]FoRsaKeN[x @ Mar 4 2014 08:34pm)
I hope you're joking. Every single zvz game on ladder is someone trying to ling bane allin you. At least as protoss you have different allin's that you can do......


I will usually all in zvz. heuheuheuhe
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