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** Please read whole post or at least part where I explain "Overall" term used in my results thanks! ***
*** Thanks Jebediah for those mapstats, link to post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17090758 ***

Hello, out of curiosity I've calculated winratios by race for winners bracket (1-5 round) and losers bracket (1-7 round) of IPL 5 Tournament, so its quite up-to-date info. If anybody interested I can send excel file in which every calculation was proceed. Just PM.

Other thing I want to tell is that I feel it is pointless to calculate winratios for Final Bracket of IPL5 because there is only one terran left Source of data that I was using is
IGN ProLeague Season 5/Main Event.

And please keep balance QQ as far as possible away from this thread! Thanks in advance.

Before we look into results, I want to explain few things.
Xrace wins% formula: sum of race wins in specific MU divided by amount of same MUs. For example Zerg wins% vs Terran = 13 zerg wins against terran divided by 19 TvZs (see source)
"Overall" result includes every win of specific race (even in mirrors) divided by all matches in analysed bracket.
Ok, let's go!

Results:
Winners Bracket round 1-5:

Zerg wins%:
- vT: 68,42%
- vP: 43,75%
- Overall: 47,46%

Terran wins%:
- vZ: 31,58%
- vP: 60,00%
- Overall: 23,73%

Protoss wins%:
- vZ: 56,25%
- vT: 40,00%
- Overall: 28,81%

Losers Bracket round 1-7:

Zerg wins%:
- vT: 69,23%
- vP: 76,92%
- Overall: 57,41%

Terran wins%:
- vZ: 30,77%
- vP: 50,00%
- Overall: 24,07%

Protoss wins%:
- vZ: 23,08%
- vT: 50,00%
- Overall: 18,52%

Average results (WB 1-5 + LB 1-7)

Zerg wins%:
- vT: 68,83%
- vP: 60,34%
- Overall: 52,43%

Terran wins%:
- vZ: 31,17%
- vP: 55,00%
- Overall: 23,90%

Protoss wins%:
- vZ: 39,66%
- vT: 45,00%
- Overall: 23,67%

So.. that is all! Thanks for reading, I hope that at least one person find it helpful and/or informative. Also, I will gladly hear from you what to fix or add , Cheers







Zerg has a 69% winratio vs terran, 60% winratio vs protoss

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Dec 1 2012 05:18pm
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Dec 1 2012 05:24pm
i bet the korean vs non korean w/l ratios are similar
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Dec 1 2012 06:17pm
Sorry but these winrates mean nothing. We need a larger sample size. If will be a few more years before we can truly know if Zerg is imbalanced, and then Blizzard can patch the game if so.

Also the metagame still needs time to shift. Zergs may just be out metagaming the opposition.
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Sorry but these winrates mean nothing. We need a larger sample size. If will be a few more years before we can truly know if Zerg is imbalanced, and then Blizzard can patch the game if so.

Also the metagame still needs time to shift. Zergs may just be out metagaming the opposition.


lmao! a few more years?



you don't even play this game. shut up.
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Quote (PURE- @ Dec 2 2012 12:17am)
Sorry but these winrates mean nothing. We need a larger sample size. If will be a few more years before we can truly know if Zerg is imbalanced, and then Blizzard can patch the game if so.

Also the metagame still needs time to shift. Zergs may just be out metagaming the opposition.


You need a larger sample-size? look at every tournament in the past 6 months lol. Zerg wins errything.

But i will point out the player pool of ipl5 was 40~ ish % zerg so these stats are still bad, but just not as bad as it seems.
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Quote (PURE- @ Dec 1 2012 08:17pm)
Sorry but these winrates mean nothing. We need a larger sample size. If will be a few more years before we can truly know if Zerg is imbalanced, and then Blizzard can patch the game if so.

Also the metagame still needs time to shift. Zergs may just be out metagaming the opposition.


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Dec 1 2012 07:13pm
zerg op


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Dec 1 2012 07:54pm
Quote (LegendaryIcicle @ Dec 1 2012 07:17pm)
** Please read whole post or at least part where I explain "Overall" term used in my results  thanks! ***
*** Thanks Jebediah for those mapstats, link to post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?postid=17090758 ***

Hello, out of curiosity I've calculated winratios by race for winners bracket (1-5 round) and losers bracket (1-7 round) of IPL 5 Tournament, so its quite up-to-date info. If anybody interested I can send excel file in which every calculation was proceed. Just PM.

Other thing I want to tell is that I feel it is pointless to calculate winratios for Final Bracket of IPL5 because there is only one terran left  Source of data that I was using is
IGN ProLeague Season 5/Main Event.

And please keep balance QQ as far as possible away from this thread! Thanks in advance.

Before we look into results, I want to explain few things.
Xrace wins% formula: sum of race wins in specific MU divided by amount of same MUs. For example Zerg wins% vs Terran = 13 zerg wins against terran divided by 19 TvZs (see source)
"Overall" result includes every win of specific race (even in mirrors) divided by all matches in analysed bracket.
Ok, let's go!

Results:
Winners Bracket round 1-5:

Zerg wins%:
- vT: 68,42%
- vP: 43,75%
- Overall: 47,46%

Terran wins%:
- vZ: 31,58%
- vP: 60,00%
- Overall: 23,73%

Protoss wins%:
- vZ: 56,25%
- vT: 40,00%
- Overall: 28,81%

Losers Bracket round 1-7:

Zerg wins%:
- vT: 69,23%
- vP: 76,92%
- Overall: 57,41%

Terran wins%:
- vZ: 30,77%
- vP: 50,00%
- Overall: 24,07%

Protoss wins%:
- vZ: 23,08%
- vT: 50,00%
- Overall: 18,52%

Average results (WB 1-5 + LB 1-7)

Zerg wins%:
- vT: 68,83%
- vP: 60,34%
- Overall: 52,43%

Terran wins%:
- vZ: 31,17%
- vP: 55,00%
- Overall: 23,90%

Protoss wins%:
- vZ: 39,66%
- vT: 45,00%
- Overall: 23,67%

So.. that is all! Thanks for reading, I hope that at least one person find it helpful and/or informative. Also, I will gladly hear from you what to fix or add , Cheers







Zerg has a 69% winratio vs terran, 60% winratio vs protoss

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average overall results don't make any sense

This post was edited by eyewuvd2 on Dec 1 2012 07:55pm
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average overall results don't make any sense


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