I trying to find best build for siren lvl 61

how about this add me and i'll give you skill points then you can have them all

yOU CAN ALWAYS GO RAPID FIRE ONE..

Get any Hellfire (I used a lvl 20 something one for like half of playthrough 2 and still killed faster then the other ppl)

Controller -
Diva 5
Inner Glow 5
Hard to get 3
Girl power 5
Mindgames 3 (Whatever.. 20% is more then enough, and the extra % doesnt matter with all the bullets you'll be putting out)

Elemental -
Quicksilver 5
Spark 5 (With Hellfire you dont even need Spark, but its a prequisite. The others suck, but it does come in handy when using the Tempest or the Vitrolic Crux shottie)
Resilience 5 (Most of the dmg you take l8er will be from Elements.)
Phoenix 5
(If your not lvl 61, you can replace Resilience with Intuition if you want that extra XP. Just make sure your team mates let you kill the larger enemies)

Assassin-
Slayer 5
Enforcer 5
High velocity 3 (Or whatevers left over. You can swap points from this with Hard to get depending on how long you wanna wait for phasewalk)
(You could also replace Hard to get with Blackout, but it wont help you with bosses/tougher enemies if your not killing them fast enough. )

Any bandits / crimson lace that are not Pyros will be dead in like 1-2 shots. When phoenix kicks in, if you just touch them they will burn to death. No need to waste your ammo on them. Find the best Mercenary or Firefly mod you can get. When using Hellfire, the extra % f or Elemental chance doenst matter, EVERY shot with a Hellfire will set them on fire no matter what. If you get one with a scope, you can snipe flammable enemies just as easily as the Hunter. Find a Vitrolic Crux shotgun for Pyro enemies or Devastators (Also works good on bosses) and you will still mow through them with a few shots. Run n' gun, when your health gets low, then phasewalk in behind them while you heal. Those pesky aliens and drones are the only thing that are difficult for you to kill, but with the Tempest or a Vitrolic Crux will fix that easily. I always liked Firefly mods (So no ammo regen, but you have more of a chance to save ammo with +Phoenix.), but I found plenty of those Legendary SMG's with ammo regenartion. Had it on switch for awhile and it worked great. You'll run through bandits/crimson lance like they're not even there. On a side note, Hellfires with faster ROF > Dmg if you've gotta choose. Volcanoes also work for sniping if you dont get one with a scope. Edit this build slightly (More hard to get, no Mindgames) and you can solo Crawmerax with the Tempest.

This is kind of what i got right now.


Burns ammo to fast... i got 23 smg regen / smg dmg / + skills class mod atm but since my smg is either a elemental one or High fire rate / 4x bullet smg it don't work good.

=[ its what i used haha

Try to find a Savior SMG (Legendary) of any type. Keep it on switch when your not killing stuff / running around.
Get a Firefly mod with % Elemental chance (For other ele guns on switch). The +Phoenix will help a lot with saving ammo, and you wont need to use as many bullets on bandits/lance. Any fleshy enemy took 1-2 bullets and they'd burn to death, even after completing the 2nd playthrough.
You'll use less ammo against bandits/lance in the long run, and against all bandits you can just touch them and they die with phoenix. Just doesnt work as well without Firefly.

Atm for when i run out of smg ammo i got a legendary smg with ammo regen to replace it