Basically, I'm interested in playing Priest, Warlock, Rogue, and Mage more than the other classes, and I am going to be playing Horde for certain.

What race is best Shadow priest DPS in end game raiding? What about PVP Shadow priests? As for healing, would the race choice be different than for shadow?

When I played last time around, I was a Goblin SPriest because the haste buff was really important for the DoT's and rocket jump turned out to be quite amazing for PvP and even for avoiding PvE effects. Initially I intended to just do the same again, but I know times change, and I'd rather not make a poor decision now that will cost me 1% DPS later, causing me to have to redo my character from scratch just to fix it =P (which I would end up doing...) I also noticed they recently gave Undead a new racial, Touch of the Grave, which adds a random damage proc, that supposedly gets boosted by shadow form, is this a substantial DPS racial, or is it a joke? Also for PvP, how does WotF compare to rocket jump?

For Warlock, Rogue, and Mage, I guess same question really, although I'm not certain what spec I intend to go with them yet. Sorry for being so vague here, but I haven't played since just after WotLK was out, I just know I enjoyed the clothy classes and rogue play.

Anyway, if anyone can help out, I'd be really grateful, I can't post on battlenet forum yet due to their stupid policies and me not having WoD yet, and Elitist-jerks seems to be a bit dead now for this sort of info. I guess that brings me to another point... where do people go to talk about min/max gameplay for WoW these days? I'd really love to just spend hours reading threads / guides before I get started, knowledge is power and all that...

Thanks.

Right now the best class for semi-end game which is the only thing out untill December 2nd, 2014 is a the Shadow priest. They are insane, once you learn to play them by looking up a guide and having the right gear (stat wise, you could have green gear and still be insane with the right stat choice of gear). Right now is not insanely overpowered but its pretty close.


Either undead or goblin would be your best bet, Probraly undead because of the % boost in damage while in shadow form. Hope this helped.

This post was edited by leftoverd2jsp on Nov 21 2014 11:00am

Undead in every situation.

So my old main just so happens to be a great choice still, and the two races I was considering are still the best choices as well? Didn't really see that one coming =P

Anyone else got some input? As for undead, I really have no idea how useful their new passive actually is, I mean from what I read it's as much of an unknown as possible, compared to something like "1% increase to haste" I mean I can crunch numbers with that, the touch of the grave stuff however, how much DPS is that actually going to net, doesn't seem easy to do the math on it on paper...

http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/Raid_T17N.html

they don't look so strong to me

I usually like to look up Blood Legion (Rank 1 US guild) for raiding info, like what races they are running and professions and stuff and seems like everyone is going Troll. (FOR PVE)