profit margins don't equate to a game dying or not, the downward trend of active players has always been the sign and its no surprise since wow is over a decade old, to say that its not dying or in decline is ignorance.

This post was edited by kragujevac on Aug 5 2015 01:23pm

http://www.statista.com/statistics/276601/number-of-world-of-warcraft-subscribers-by-quarter/

Decline and dying are not synonymous...it's obviously declining since wrath.

Also, it was mentioned earlier, in different words, but basically they make more money off of less subs due to micro transactions, people selling raf, tokens, etc..

Let me put it in to perspective for you - tell me another MMO that could actually LOSE 5 million subs without going under. It was a decline from the extremely inflated 10mil subs...realistically they are down like 1mil subs from the pre-wod spike.

quoting financial statistics is like komachi calling everyone duelist or delilah being 2,4k in mop

nobody plays wow anymore except retards like bioshocker

and the game HAS been dying since bc, mechanically

This post was edited by Airwaves on Aug 5 2015 02:34pm

yeah bc was very hard??
u need to stop LOL

like u always talk shit about retail when i bet ud just be another kleav

there are still tons of solid fucking players andd u have no idea what youre even talking about
bc was a joke
wotlk was a joke to an extent
as for mechanics, there are farby WAY more mechanics implemented into this game since cata
u had like 2 skills in bc what makes u think thers any mechanics, it was more "finding strategy" than mechanics cus no one knew what they were doing

nobody cares if wow makes money still, it doesn't mean the game isn't dying. if you got your fanboy head up your ass and looked at %'s and compared it to any other game that was dying, you could see the game is dying. herp a fuckin derp. obviously if you look at numbers only and not %, you see this big amount of revenue compared to other games because they aren't nearly as populated.

Games dying, see you posting in this sf for another 5 years.

all the people who "quit" wow post in this forum more than the people who actually play

bc wasn't hard? bc introduced half the game's mechanics and most of those fights took as long as ouro to kill.

instead of calculating how many seconds you move on a fight per 8 second intervals to adjust your enchants, and running multiple gear sets to min/max crit against brutallus/bloodboil/etc, now you just press a fuckin button on a menu to set your skill points. it's completely brainless shit.

wrath was a farmville daily quest expansion i don't see how it's any better, even to "an extent".

and more mechanics since cata? like what? reskinned sartharion firewall? i've seen mop streams and it's been the same shitty firewalls and defile pools used in every single fight.

instead of "compendium" and "theorycraft" you have robots that tell you how to gem and what cards to pick in arena.



and exactly who the fuck still pvps that's relevant? b-list streamers? sodapoppin?

cdew? fucking swifty who makes videos about hunters being op and never gets wing clipped once?

at has been dead for years and i was aware ppl like reckful went off to play diablo 3.

serious question. if there's an old school pro that's worth watching do 3s against ddosers/wintraders who spam self healing until their cds are up and they can do 500k damage.. you let me know. maybe i'll learn something.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Aug 5 2015 03:46pm

They need to make a Warcraft 4 and more importantly, a WoW 2. Half of the problem with the game is that almost everything has lost its significance. Having a max level char used to mean something, people didn't get their first mount until 40, and to unlock riding costed a fortune (at the time). Now people have millions of gold, countless max-level toons, and things are getting repetitive. They need a total reset of the game, an overhaul or how the game is played, etc. if they really want to continue dominating the MMO market. While 5.1M subs is by far the most of any MMO in the world, their sub number has cut in half since the release of WoD and it's a matter of time until that number continues to drop.