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Apr 28 2016 11:30am
Quote (kayeto @ Apr 27 2016 02:42pm)
I agree completely. That's why we have to keep beating the drum and hopefully get as many customers as possible to see the message.

The light at the end of our tunnel right now wold be to see the Legion subs dropping to 3mil within a few months after release.


Agreed! I want subs to drop below levels they even thought were possible, and i want preorders to drop even before then.

I want blizzard to see that the game will be in full decline moving forward without legacy servers.
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Apr 28 2016 11:43am
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I think a lot of you underestimate how many people enjoy a challenging game. I see the argument from both sides. I know that if they were to create a Vanilla server, I would definitely pick the game back up. It would probably only be for 6 months or so, but it would be an enjoyable 6 months.


I don't know that anyone underestimates the quantity of people. The steep sub dropoff since WOTLK (wod hype spike notwithstanding) has been well publicized.

The issue is the type of people. Blizzard can make more money selling $50 mounts to 4 million people than they can by offering actual game content for 12 million. That's where the barrier to legacy server comes in.

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Apr 28 2016 12:12pm
WoW blows, and always did.

Shit looks like Super Nintendo.
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Apr 28 2016 12:13pm
Quote (Port @ Apr 27 2016 02:21pm)
Blizzard is a great company and I think they would only benefit from this


They see it as something that would take away from the newest expansion and would over all split up there user base. The retail servers are already hurting, few reach a high population on a daily basis, most are dead or barely squeaking by. If they released a vanilla wow option right now, those numbers would drop even more and the people who continue to play on those servers would hurt because of it and complain. Thats why they don't want to create a vanilla server, not because its too expensive or is too difficult. They don't see it benefiting their current subscriber base.

While I understand where they are coming from, I think it would benefit them as long as they kept some sort of stipulations in order to access the vanilla servers that would benefit them financially as well as keeping the "player base" in the same boat. Stuff like requiring the latest expansion in order to play on the vanilla/progressive servers. The game gets extremely boring in its current state, and I don't think blizzard realizes why people are leaving, there is no more chase or uncharted territory. The old days were fun because there were bosses that no one cleared for weeks, there were raids they were released before the last one was completed. There was always a carrot on a stick keeping you enticed and moving forward, and every step of the way you had something to show for it. Now days gear means nothing, defeating a boss is not an accomplishment unless its done on mythic and even then no one really cares because they have dumbed down versions of the same equipment in normals or raid finder.
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Apr 28 2016 03:17pm
Quote (RMMhc @ Apr 28 2016 11:02am)
I think a lot of you underestimate how many people enjoy a challenging game. I see the argument from both sides. I know that if they were to create a Vanilla server, I would definitely pick the game back up. It would probably only be for 6 months or so, but it would be an enjoyable 6 months.



They would prob reset servers like Diablo does with ladder once all content has been cleared including arena seasons.

Not just one time, but for example 10 or so guilds clear all content.

A rough example but you get what I mean

It could definitely work. They just want it to work financially as well
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