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#21
Apr 27 2016 07:34am
^ I agree with what that guy in the vid said about people only remembering the best of the game. Also agree that you have to move on every game has its ups and downs. If you truly dont want to play it then go for it play something else. However I wouldn't care if they added legacy servers but make it a monthly cost (because you know they wont do it without getting something out of it). They should get rid of a lot of things in WoW to make the server you play on more meaningful (such as LFR, Cross-Realm etc) you know what i'm talking about.
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#22
Apr 27 2016 08:00am
Quote (DoctorManhattan @ Apr 26 2016 08:16pm)
You know i've played WoW since vanilla and yes it was great back then but times change guys, you have to grow up and move on. If they did make the "legacy servers" it would just be the hardcore people because it takes like anywhere between 1-3 months to hit 60 people have lives now and get bored quickly. Then you have to farm all the gear that takes months. Yes, it was cool getting gear that only a select few had but then again was it really that good? I would play the servers don't get me wrong but I do prefer the current World of Warcraft because it is a brand new game it isn't something from 12 years old.


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If legacy servers start you need to continue right? Because after about a year or two of playing on the server people will obtain most if not all the end game gear then what? They add the expansion and in the end it will lead to the current expansion.


with the underlined portion I have to say the reason I am bored with wow now is because leveling is so trivial.. basically the only point of playing at all is for end game and the leveling process is just a drag. no one wants to level because there is no point or feeling of accomplishment at all.. like zero because all you do is spam for dungeons. if you have tried leveling via questing you would know you basically get started in an area and you are already outleveling all the mobs. I don't know how long the appeal would last, but them are just my thoughts.
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#23
Apr 27 2016 09:28am
Quote (Trillasecond @ Apr 27 2016 04:36am)
the kind of retards that spend $50 on a mount aren't the kind that play vanilla wow

that's exactly what i mean. thats why putting up a server for vanilla players would be harmful to their business model

putting their effort towards creating a game for that kind of player would not have an acceptable return on investment

they need to control the market so other MMOs cant pop up, ignore the kind of gamers who are interested in fun game play and funnel everyone towards microtransactions

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with the underlined portion I have to say the reason I am bored with wow now is because leveling is so trivial.. basically the only point of playing at all is for end game and the leveling process is just a drag.

but isn't endgame even a bigger source of unhappiness?

This post was edited by kayeto on Apr 27 2016 09:34am
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Apr 27 2016 11:04am
Well they listen to the majority ( the casual players ) people want to join their friends at end game so they help make leveling easier and blizzard makes it easier to have alts. You can't put all the blame on blizzard themselves they listened to the people they gave what they want pretty much handing them the gear the levels everything because people are lazy. Yet, everyone complains that blizzard is terrible blah blah but it is "us" as a whole that are making the game bad you ask for this they deliver. You as an individual might not want this but again as a whole we do. Yes leveling is easy gear is easy but it is all what we wanted to have stuff handed to us because we are lazy. I'm saying we because they don't listen to one person it is the majority.
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#25
Apr 27 2016 11:06am
Quote (kayeto @ Apr 27 2016 09:28am)
that's exactly what i mean. thats why putting up a server for vanilla players would be harmful to their business model

putting their effort towards creating a game for that kind of player would not have an acceptable return on investment

they need to control the market so other MMOs cant pop up, ignore the kind of gamers who are interested in fun game play and funnel everyone towards microtransactions


but isn't endgame even a bigger source of unhappiness?


acceptable return on investment can come second to massive negative backlash. The vocal minority is beating the drum of war, bad press is bad. Paying for a lower than acceptable return on investment beats paying for massive PR on bad press. And you need to take into account un-subs as a direct result of Blizzard's response or lackthereof, which have shown to be a bigger deal as a fallout than most people thought.
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#26
Apr 27 2016 02:21pm
Blizzard is a great company and I think they would only benefit from this
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Apr 27 2016 02:42pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 27 2016 01:06pm)
acceptable return on investment can come second to massive negative backlash. The vocal minority is beating the drum of war, bad press is bad. Paying for a lower than acceptable return on investment beats paying for massive PR on bad press. And you need to take into account un-subs as a direct result of Blizzard's response or lackthereof, which have shown to be a bigger deal as a fallout than most people thought.


I agree completely. That's why we have to keep beating the drum and hopefully get as many customers as possible to see the message.

The light at the end of our tunnel right now wold be to see the Legion subs dropping to 3mil within a few months after release.
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#28
Apr 27 2016 02:58pm
Quote (kayeto @ Apr 27 2016 09:28am)
that's exactly what i mean. thats why putting up a server for vanilla players would be harmful to their business model

putting their effort towards creating a game for that kind of player would not have an acceptable return on investment

they need to control the market so other MMOs cant pop up, ignore the kind of gamers who are interested in fun game play and funnel everyone towards microtransactions


but isn't endgame even a bigger source of unhappiness?


I honestly don't know why I still play.. I really don't enjoy it..
one of those things you just do out of habit maybe?

I haven't raided in a guild at any capacity in probably a year. I was pvping a little which I was enjoying, but really I don't enjoy the game. I am an idiot though and keep playing. lol
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Apr 27 2016 03:06pm
Quote (ghc @ Apr 27 2016 04:58pm)
I honestly don't know why I still play.. I really don't enjoy it..
one of those things you just do out of habit maybe?


that's why hopping around on pservers kinda gives a chance to chase that old rush
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#30
Apr 28 2016 10:02am
I think a lot of you underestimate how many people enjoy a challenging game. I see the argument from both sides. I know that if they were to create a Vanilla server, I would definitely pick the game back up. It would probably only be for 6 months or so, but it would be an enjoyable 6 months.
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