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Feb 1 2022 02:52pm
Quote (Automatica @ Feb 1 2022 05:45am)
You can still be boosted in game, just can't use those orgs anymore, you need to do it from guilds and individuals in the game.


Ahhh ok, I honestly didn't realize there were discord servers and websites dedicated for boosting

Quote (Automatica @ Feb 1 2022 09:47am)
They are just banning the hugely organized boosting discord communities and sites that are funneling gold into sites that sell WoW gold for legitimately 10's of million of dollars. and yeah people will still try hard to get around it


Blizzard makes more in the bot subs/wow tokens than the goldsites make

Plus there are bot boosters in game, at least there was a ton of them in Vanilla

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Feb 3 2022 10:55am
The concern now is the genuinely decent boosting communities that did it for gold and to provide a safe option are not unable to continue, so we will see a lot more people get scammed.

I'll be interested to see how this goes moving forward, I imagine there will be more tweaks to the rules.
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Feb 4 2022 06:51am
A bit more information: https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-clarifies-cross-realm-advertising-for-boosts-not-allowed-325868

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if a guild wishes to partake in cross realm boosting, if a guild had advertisers spamming on and cross realm for their guild sales, that would be fine?

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That would not be fine.

To provide more clarity for those who have been wondering where the lines are drawn in this new policy, we’d like to summarize that part of it.

Advertising for gameplay activities should be done by a WoW player-character who intends to participate in the gameplay activities. This means there should be no cross-realm advertising, and there should be no advertising from non-participating players.

And as before, the only place that advertising a “for gold” activity is allowed is the Trade channel. Advertising in any other chat channel or the Group Finder makes the player subject to actions against their account.
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Feb 5 2022 09:36am
Quote (Automatica @ Feb 1 2022 02:44pm)
the thing is that these boosting services have become highly organized multi million dollar organizations. They got so big and profitable they attracted blizzards attention.


multi milion? kek

not even worth a milion dollars, have you ever been part of a boosting community? It is additional revenue stream for people who own/manage them but you won’t be able to afford making a comfortable living out of it in the western country like UK or US
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Feb 5 2022 10:28am
Quote (elrod @ Feb 5 2022 10:36am)
multi milion? kek

not even worth a milion dollars, have you ever been part of a boosting community? It is additional revenue stream for people who own/manage them but you won’t be able to afford making a comfortable living out of it in the western country like UK or US


Yeah selling RMT gold is a multi million dollar industry dude. What do you think boosting communities are doing? They are funneling huge amounts of gold to RMT sites. I am not talking about the low level boosters getting small amounts of gold. I am talking about the people running them who use that gold to supply RMT sites. You probably have never played Wow and don't know the huge scope of gold selling.
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Quote (Automatica @ Feb 5 2022 05:28pm)
Yeah selling RMT gold is a multi million dollar industry dude. What do you think boosting communities are doing? They are funneling huge amounts of gold to RMT sites. I am not talking about the low level boosters getting small amounts of gold. I am talking about the people running them who use that gold to supply RMT sites. You probably have never played Wow and don't know the huge scope of gold selling.



I was a mythic plus booster (Nova, Icecrown etc.) for a couple of months and I was in a direct contact with people running them. Your posts clearly show that you know shit about this industry.

Show me the owner of any online shop/boosting community/individual wow gold booster that makes over 100k usd per month. By reading your first post one could understand that you refer to single communities making milions of usd, then in your second post you refer to entire industry as a whole… obviously entire rmt wow industry can be measured in millions of usd, but a single enterprise? No way… prove me wrong.

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I was a mythic plus booster (Nova, Icecrown etc.) for a couple of months and I was in a direct contact with people running them. Your posts clearly show that you know shit about this industry.

Show me the owner of any online shop/boosting community/individual wow gold booster that makes over 100k usd per month. By reading your first post one could understand that you refer to single communities making milions of usd, then in your second post you refer to entire industry as a whole… obviously entire rmt wow industry can be measured in millions of usd, but a single enterprise? No way… prove me wrong.


I never said a single enterprise, you should re-read what I said. They specifically targeted these communities (not one, but dozens or maybe even more). It's aggregate, the majority of that gold is being funneled into RMT. I never said one site or one community but the enterprise as a whole. Again that's why they targeted the communities and didn't go after guilds or individual players boosting.

Since these sites are normally hosted in countries which will levy any legal action against Blizzard had to start going after some of the ways they are funneling. Obviously boosting is one aspect, botting another... but this whole enterprise is all drive on third party RMT sites. I am guessing you like RMT.

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I never said a single enterprise, you should re-read what I said. They specifically targeted these communities (not one, but dozens or maybe even more). It's aggregate, the majority of that gold is being funneled into RMT. I never said one site or one community but the enterprise as a whole. Again that's why they targeted the communities and didn't go after guilds or individual players boosting.

Since these sites are normally hosted in countries which will levy any legal action against Blizzard had to start going after some of the ways they are funneling. Obviously boosting is one aspect, botting another... but this whole enterprise is all drive on third party RMT sites. I am guessing you like RMT.


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the thing is that these boosting services have become highly organized multi million dollar organizations. <-- this is pretty clearly stating that there are at least couple of multi-million dollar organizations that profit from wow RMT.

Quote (Automatica @ Feb 5 2022 10:19pm)
I am guessing you like RMT.


First, you say that I probably haven't played Wow, now you guess that I like RMT... at least you put a smile on my face :)

Playing since BC, and I made a dozen official complaints against botters in WoW including the provision of recordings, screenshots, account details, etc. I use gold to pay for my subscription.

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Feb 5 2022 03:52pm
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Quote (Automatica @ Feb 1 2022 02:44pm)
the thing is that these boosting services have become highly organized multi million dollar organizations. <-- this is pretty clearly stating that there are at least couple of multi-million dollar organizations that profit from wow RMT.



First, you say that I probably haven't played Wow, now you guess that I like RMT... at least you put a smile on my face :)

Playing since BC, and I made a dozen official complaints against botters in WoW including the provision of recordings, screenshots, account details, etc. I use gold to pay for my subscription.


you see the "s" at the end, that means plural
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Feb 5 2022 03:59pm
Quote (Automatica @ Feb 5 2022 10:52pm)
you see the "s" at the end, that means plural


You define dozens of Boosting communities as 1 entity or enterprise as you call it. Which is inaccurate, to say the least. I think that's the reason for the misunderstanding between us.

1 Boosting community = 1 entity/enterprise, and according to my best very knowledge, there is not even one that could be called a multi-million dollar one. When it comes to an entire RMT market, then for sure and here I think we can agree.
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