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Apr 9 2016 02:55am
Quote (kayeto @ Apr 9 2016 06:56am)
ok, let's look at the details. You say they can do it, so how would they do it?

*Would players have one WoW installed at their computer, then connect to a server running version 6.2 (or whatever the current patch is) then have the option to choose a classic realm from the list of servers? If that's the model, that means Blizz would essentially have to rewrite vanilla wow for the 6.2 engine. Things have changed in the source code, making things works like they did before might be challenging.

*Or are you suggesting that players would have a unique install for every expansion they want to be able to play, then connect to different servers that are hosting different patches? In that case, blizz would have to host and provide support for discrete servers, thereby increasing their workload.

*Also, are you suggesting playing would pay one subscription fee to access any expansion they want? Or would the extra work of hosting a vanilla server be paid for by more sub fees? And is Blizzard going to be able to recoup their time spent putting this up by making people buy the expansions again for the new "classic servers"?

The more effort I take in looking at the details, the less feasible it seems. Rather than messing with the headache of hosting old expansion, the more logical way to handle it is the obvious thing that everyone wants and has been asking for years: just make the new expansions with the vanilla philosophy. It has been proven that more people liked the game the way it was before than like it now.

At one point, Blizzard had 10 million addicts begging for the privilege of buying their brand of heroin. Blizzard couldn't even retain the people they already had hooked. Activision is so bad, they can't even sell heroine to a heroine addict.



If some dudes in their bedroom can set up a solid working server with over 150k active accounts with 11k players on at the same time the I'm sure a multi billion dollar company can do it.

It's clearly not fucking hard. And there is clearly a demand for it.

But fuck me right I don't know what I want, I think I do, but I don't.
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Apr 9 2016 03:05am
Quote (Mitchellway @ Apr 9 2016 04:55am)
If some dudes in their bedroom can set up a solid working server with over 150k active accounts with 11k players on at the same time the I'm sure a multi billion dollar company can do it.


The difference between them and Blizzard is those dudes in their bedroom were not trying to maximize profit. Blizzard fitting legacy servers into their for-profit business model is where the challenge comes in.

When/if Blizzard completely abandons the pretense of trying to make good new content, then hosting old expansions would look a lot more viable.

This post was edited by kayeto on Apr 9 2016 03:11am
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The difference between them and Blizzard is those dudes in their bedroom were not trying to maximize profit. Blizzard fitting legacy servers into their for-profit business model is where the challenge comes in.

When/if Blizzard completely abandons the pretense of trying to make good new content, then hosting old expansions would look a lot more viable.


Ah, I see your point actually.
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RIP 4x T2 geared character, 1 rank 14.
20k+ gold.
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RIP 4x T2 geared character, 1 rank 14.
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Plus how many hours of your life?
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Apr 11 2016 11:58am
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Apr 11 2016 03:56pm
Quote (kayeto @ Apr 9 2016 09:56am)


The more effort I take in looking at the details, the less feasible it seems. Rather than messing with the headache of hosting old expansion, the more logical way to handle it is the obvious thing that everyone wants and has been asking for years: just make the new expansions with the vanilla philosophy. It has been proven that more people liked the game the way it was before than like it now.

At one point, Blizzard had 10 million addicts begging for the privilege of buying their brand of heroin. Blizzard couldn't even retain the people they already had hooked. Activision is so bad, they can't even sell heroine to a heroine addict.


Amen to that! I played all the vanilla, tbc content etc back in the day it was awsome! every damn moment of it... I DO miss it but it's like a great tv show or movie that i ve already watched, watching it again surely feels good at start but deep down i 'd rather watch a new movie that is just as great and exciting. I understand though that a lot of people did not experience it back then and WoW nowadays is kinda meh.

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Apr 11 2016 05:22pm
I think Blizzy is kind of right in the sense that people seem like they want it, but I can't imagine playing the same end game content (wether it be vanilla, bc, etc.) long term.

You need that constant stream of content coming in to keep people subbed


By all means blizzard is a huge studio that could easily hire a team to work on legacy servers and those servers would easily generate enough $$$ to cover the team and 10 fold.
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Apr 11 2016 06:20pm
The games changed so much since vanilla they really couldn't just go back to the old system of things such as weapon skills, mount costs/gold intake, etc because kids would cry

Look at what they did in WoD, no flying? Kids cried so much they were almost forced to add it ingame.

I personally don't care about flying, ground mounts are what I grew up with in Azeroth and even Outland. I wasn't as hardcore into the game during BC to get a flying mount.

I believe you enjoy the scenery ingame that the devs took great time into making instead of flying to point A to collect objects A and B.

I also discovered many quest lines doing it this way back in the day.

If blizzard does not add legacy servers in the next ~2 years the game will be behind other MMOs due to not being as money hungry but more player-based.

We've been spoiled. You can finish an expansions quest line in a matter of hours. You can literally buy level cap atm to "boost you to current content" ... Ok anyone who's never played this game should NEVER EVER do this due to elitists hating on them and disgracing them in parties and raids and not learning their class at all and expecting the game to teach them how to ex; heal or tank.

Heirlooms... If you're running with a friend who refuses to level a character without them, good luck keeping up. "Dude I'm sorry I out leveled gnomeregan, hit me up when you can que others" *3 hours of dungeon ques as dps* "I'm level 70 now.. What's taking you so long" what a fucking joke and an easy way out. The same people who use these complain about how the game is too easy yet can't beat normal HFC. Fuck outta here

This is my opinion.
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Apr 11 2016 11:18pm
Quote (gramkracka22 @ Apr 11 2016 07:22pm)
I think Blizzy is kind of right in the sense that people seem like they want it, but I can't imagine playing the same end game content (wether it be vanilla, bc, etc.) long term.

You need that constant stream of content coming in to keep people subbed


So you are arguing against WOD right? MOP/WOD are the kings of content droughts. That's the direction the new expansions are heading.

This post was edited by kayeto on Apr 11 2016 11:21pm
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