Quote (SnowmanA1 @ Dec 18 2014 08:16am)

i do all this at ilvl 648 and im only pulling 17.5k dps well everything except using draenic agility potion and i use anticipation

so if i change those 2 things will my dps spike 4 or 5k? lol idk why mines so low i do rotation right i keep everything up and still shit

Quote (nlin @ Dec 18 2014 05:18am)

fuck me, time to get daggers off koragh

struggling to break 19 w/ 200 flask and prepotting as 646 combat

Quote (Sargasms @ Dec 17 2014 05:18pm)

Not even.. I have both a lock and rogue and I top damn near everytime..

Quote (eLmasten @ Dec 18 2014 08:46am)

Anticipation is useless for sub spec!

It's only good for Assasination, because Multistrike gives double combopoints and break the 5 limit often.




Combat is also very good - What talents and how is your rotation?

Quote (nlin @ Dec 19 2014 09:52am)

Shadow Focus
Combat Readiness (Nerve Strike if adds)
Elusiveness
Shadowstep
Prey on the Weak
Marked for Death
Venom Rush


Ambush out of stealth
RS up at all times
SS for CP

SnD up all the time
Eviscerate at 5 CP

Killing Spree whenever it's up
AR to "cut the CD" of KS down (Relentless Strikes i think it is?)
MfD


Pretty sure I"m playing it right. I just don't feel too strong on fights without more than 1 target. (Karg if I don't go in the stands, Butcher, etc.)

Quote (SnowmanA1 @ Dec 17 2014 10:16pm)

i do all this at ilvl 648 and im only pulling 17.5k dps well everything except using draenic agility potion and i use anticipation

so if i change those 2 things will my dps spike 4 or 5k? lol idk why mines so low i do rotation right i keep everything up and still shit

Quote (SpecialFX @ Dec 20 2014 11:30pm)

I'm similar ilvl on my rogue but ~1k less dps average. I stack mastery and multistrike because those are currently the best for sub. I think it's multi>=mastery>crit>>haste.

I can look up stat weights in a bit. Once I get the ilvl 660 pvp daggers, I expect a big spike in my dps.

Quote (eLmasten @ Dec 20 2014 06:07pm)

Are the pvp daggers good for PVE ? I havn't thought about grinding that.

Quote (eLmasten @ 17 Dec 2014 20:35)

ilvl 645 sub rogue here with 23-26k dps after boss is dead

45-55k dps first 30 sec.

all single target.

Useful talents:
Shadow focus ( free ambush )
Shadowstep ( get in position after knockback etc to keep uptime dps )
Mark for death ( I'll explain why )
Shadow reflection ( that's why )

Before boss starts, you will have 5 combo points ready up if there's a kind healer to do a hot on someone. ( Honor Among Thieves )

You start out with 5 combo Slice N Dice
Ambush , hemo, 5 combo point Rupture
wait for ~70 energy and then a proc trinket should be triggered by now. If you have an on use trinket use it in this macro:
( trick of the trade on tank before doing any of this )



Then you have 8 secounds to do as much damage as possible, so the reflection can do the exact same afterwards leaveing you with a HUGE burst
you do this:
Ambush Ambush 5 combo point evis
Ambush Premeditation 5 combo point evis
Mark for death + 5 combo point evis



And then you go back to keeping up Hemo, rupture and slice n dice.
Use vanish to get a free ambush and refresh the 10 sec damage buff you get afterwards

Use preparation for a free vanish + ambush

( use it when premeditation is ready )

If there's 10 sec left cooldown on shadow reflection and shadow dance is ready... wait those 10 sec and combo them together...

have fun