So I was wondering when to use suicide branch and when to use hoto? If I recall correctly suicide branch is just against dins and necs when using a pelt and don’t need res correct?

Then other setup would just be hoto + circ or am I getting this mixed up?

never need to use pelt, use frwcirc hoto and dungos and if you dont have that, use coa and suicide branch (vs barbs or dvd)
otherwise use circ + hoto vs all for max dmg and life


overall yeah basically you are correct but imo circ hoto >>>



druids never need max block in pvp, they have summons

This post was edited by tag_ohai on Jun 1 2022 08:51am

Use 163fcr when you don't need max block.

what matchup would i use dungo hoto + circ?
am I not going to use arach most of the time?
for a dr setup I was thinking coa vs bowas/dvd etc.. so 39dr is enough no?

yeah but dungo + ber ber circlet achieves the same dr%, and you have tons of life rep, 40+ vit from dungos, and fhr from belt. the frw can help vs a lot of chars too
otherwise yes you are right. circlet with frw/fcr and ber ber is a luxury, otherwise yes use coa for melee chars. always worth having a LoLo'd coa as well for ww sins
yes mainly use arach, dungos OR coa setup for melee either suffice

you can go dungos/circ OR coa/arach, they achieve basically the same thing just depends how gg your circlet is
needed for barbs, zons, smiter, wwsin or just max mindblast sin if you really wanted to. but for sins, i'd prefer 30frw circlet

This post was edited by tag_ohai on Jun 1 2022 08:54am

well i heard someone say that in d2r u shouldn't go for 99fhr as druid anymore for some reason
my circlet wont have both 30frw and 2soc it will be either or

do i rather go 30frw 1soc or 2/20 2os?
idk, seems like 30frw 1soc cham'd is fine enough as a okay temp don't you think?

they removed fhr frames for werewolf, idk about druids i haven't even pvpd yet on d2r
if i have a 2druid/30frw/20fcr, i'd just Lo it for trappers or cham vs melee if you can afford 2 of them
whole point of rocking a circlet is to pickup 30frw so if you can't do that, stick to coa. i've never owned a 2druid/30frw/20fcr/2os circ and have won world ladders on druid so either or works just fine, just looking back i wish i could've 2/30/20/2os ber ber and dungos is all

if you use frw for anything, make sure its vs trappers so consider putting a Lo rune in 2dru/30frw/20fcr circ, and using wisp. last time i played that was still GM but double check rules

in your situation, i'd cham ber a coa and Lo the circ and use wisp vs trappers. coa vs other melees, and if you have a pelt sure rock that vs dins and necs but i think a hoto setup gives you higher oak sage

This post was edited by tag_ohai on Jun 1 2022 09:02am

yup idk
got this one as for right now, u thinking lo in circ?

for sure what you want to Lo
i had a 2druid/30frw/20fcr/5life rep circ and i Lo'd that, had a nice 40 life rep build with stacked light res vs trappers
and a 2druid/20frw/20fcr/33life circ i cham'd
was gonna post them but my upload site isnt working

This post was edited by tag_ohai on Jun 1 2022 09:21am

but wont be able to have cbf when using Lo in the circ though will I? some trappers use kick and that will freeze me, don't have cbf anywhere else when 163