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Mar 17 2022 02:05pm
I understand that Bonesnap is basically your only item until you find something great; but at what point do various weapons overtake Bonesnap and it's crushing blow?

To be specific; let's say we have a Perfect Bonesnap. At what damage would an Executioner Sword be better? And how about a Martel? And an Ancient Axe?

I have seen some people say something along the lines of 250+ top end for an Executioner sword to be better. Is the crushing blow that valuable where you have to have around 50 extra top-end to replace the awesome Bonesnap?

I am a single player guy and I only play self-found, but it has been agonizing finding a replacement for Bonesnap. I still have all 3 rerolls available, and recently found a 229 Executioner Sword with -20req and 7% ML. I am worried that I'll have to use Goblin Toes for MF just because I'm already losing so much crushing blow.

Anyone have any advice here? I thought about just rerolling and trying it, but with information and the game already being fleshed out for years, my hope is some wizard here can enlighten me :)

Thank you!
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Mar 17 2022 03:06pm
copied from another thread.


300%bonesnap


4 players in game, against minions of Infector :
Non-ladder games :
152ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
146ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)

Ladder games :
173ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
164ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)

8 players in game, against minions of Infector :
Non-ladder games :
151ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
144ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)

Ladder games :
172ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
161ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)


4 players in game, against Infector himself :
Non-ladder games :
130ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
127ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)

Ladder games :
145ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
139ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)

8 players in game, against Infector himself :
Non-ladder games :
217ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
208ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)

Ladder games :
238ed Martel = Bonesnap (without Goblins)
224ed martel = Bonesnap (both with Goblins)


All this, assuming rare Martel doesn't have any +barb skills (I've counted +128%ed from mace mastery, +110% from whirlwind and +187%ed from 170 strength).
And of course no source of +min or +max damage (rings, Martel itself...), nor allied %ed (concentration from Hammerdin), nor allied pierce physical (amp from necro).
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Mar 18 2022 08:32am
Thank you very much!
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