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Jan 26 2022 09:52am
Even w/ upped titans, fort, pheonix mon, and a2 merc pride, plague javelin doesn't really seem to do all that much damage.

It's playable, but it seems really expensive for a build that isn't "good."

Am I missing something here?

I thought people were suggesting that PJ would do like 20k damage, but it does like 4k.

Edit: I see. PJ benefits mostly from +skills, which kills the fend damage because of the way the game is itemized. That seems really whacky.

This post was edited by mki on Jan 26 2022 09:58am
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Jan 26 2022 11:09am
Trang gloves and bramble armor alone will boost your poison damage by 75%

Your gear is fairly whack
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Jan 26 2022 12:32pm
Quote (trauma0077 @ 26 Jan 2022 12:09)
Trang gloves and bramble armor alone will boost your poison damage by 75%

Your gear is fairly whack


I rolled 4 brambles and they were all around 35%. I forgot about tranq gloves though ty.
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Jan 26 2022 12:48pm
Quote (trauma0077 @ Jan 26 2022 11:09am)
Trang gloves and bramble armor alone will boost your poison damage by 75%

Your gear is fairly whack



Bramble is trash
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Jan 26 2022 01:22pm
Quote (mki @ Jan 26 2022 11:32am)
I rolled 4 brambles and they were all around 35%. I forgot about tranq gloves though ty.



Ideally if youre looking to boost poison damage thats the way to go. Skillers help a ton, a 4 faceted monarch gives a monster boost, a nice circ with skills frw and 2 facets helps, etc.

Your fend will be kinda crappy but who cares when you can throw 80K+ plague javs.

Lower resist wand on swap helps with some immunes

Theres alot of tweaking you can do
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Jan 26 2022 02:46pm
Quote (trauma0077 @ 26 Jan 2022 14:22)
Ideally if youre looking to boost poison damage thats the way to go. Skillers help a ton, a 4 faceted monarch gives a monster boost, a nice circ with skills frw and 2 facets helps, etc.

Your fend will be kinda crappy but who cares when you can throw 80K+ plague javs.

Lower resist wand on swap helps with some immunes

Theres alot of tweaking you can do


Hmm.. Okay. I was trying to max fend out instead of maxing out PJ. TY again.
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Jan 26 2022 03:32pm
Quote (mki @ Jan 26 2022 01:46pm)
Hmm.. Okay. I was trying to max fend out instead of maxing out PJ. TY again.



Well your build is probably as high as itll go outside some nice rare javs honestly. Im not sure fend will ever be a competative ability unless they pump its damage up
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Jan 26 2022 05:28pm
Can't you DWeb swap mid-Jav and it'll apply the poison res -% ?
iirc that worked before, not sure

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Can't you DWeb swap mid-Jav and it'll apply the poison res -% ?


I'm not sure. I'll test it later.
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Quote (Exokek @ 27 Jan 2022 00:28)
Can't you DWeb swap mid-Jav and it'll apply the poison res -% ?
iirc that worked before, not sure


It works, but only if you physically hit with the thrown javelin. With that strategy, and optimally built, you can supposedly 1-hit diablo clone. I tried once, but couldn't build it optimally because of the cost... but still i did it, took about 10 javelins if i remember correctly.

Plague javazon can be a nice way to go through normal and nightmare, it's quite overpowered early game and also a safe choice for hardcore. Although you will struggle with poison immune monsters like andariel and baal's wave 5. But using a lower resist wand helps.
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