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Oct 13 2025 07:52am
BLUF: what can nova sorc actually do without the big ticket items (no infinity on you or on merc, no griffons helm, no soj’s, no inventory full of + skillers) *but with a mid rolled sunder charm.

Background: I’ve been playing a truly budget mosaic assassin (not good base claws, no infinity, no griffins, no arachnid mesh, no enigma, no inventory full of +skillers) running it with speed burst/or fade, hustle armor, dragon kick, and a act 1 merc w/harmony bow. And it slaps pretty good, I’m running/ flying around pretty fast in cows player 6 and a little squishy/clunky here and there in terror zones. At this point I’m interested in if I’m better off farming to enigma and the teleport build version, or just going sorc to avoid the enigma cost, but then I’m staring at the infinity cost….

Info: playing on ladder, playing online, trading here, but I don’t play as much as you guys do. Look at my fg, lol, my definition of ‘budget’ is less than yours.

It looks like I can afford the crescent moon/spirit version of this build for the most part, BUT without griffons and infinity, how detrimental is that loss of -25%lightning res, loss of conviction aura, and loss of -55 lightning res?

There’s also the mang song version of this build, that again, seems obtainable, but I don’t ever see anyone not running infinity on the merc so I can’t tell how viable things are without infinity somewhere.

What’s the viability of running an es nova sorc, with an insight/cure/prayer merc set up and no infinity ? (I haven’t been able to find it through all the YouTube and build guides to evaluate).

Bonus question: should I just be targeting the inventory full of +skillers/torch/anni first? …is that what everyone does and I just don’t know it?
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Oct 13 2025 01:31pm
Looking into it more, looks like “players 1” it’s completely viable. But kill speed drops off hard around “players 4” and beyond.

Source- YouTubers like nuller or the iceman had videos on it where you could evaluate. (At least, that’s what I found).
Hope this helps someone
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Oct 14 2025 09:02am
a nova without infy and griffon will always be significantly worse than a budget blizz sorc
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Oct 14 2025 09:07pm
I have a nova sorc on single player that does just fine without griffons, infinity, torch and anni lol. Just crescent moon. Try it
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Oct 14 2025 09:10pm
I have a nova sorc on single player that does just fine without griffons, infinity, torch and anni lol. Just crescent moon. Try it


Pvm is brain dead easy.

But yes what you described is worse than a simple blizz Sorc
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Oct 14 2025 09:39pm
i use mostly light for mfing and never ever use nova. i also never use chain lightening just standard lightening. the damage and pierce ability of lightening is fantastic and it just "works"...
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Oct 15 2025 04:26am
Pvm is brain dead easy.


In stark contrast to PvP of course - which is just braindead.

This post was edited by Kaltrato on Oct 15 2025 04:27am
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Oct 15 2025 10:42am
Pvm is brain dead easy.

But yes what you described is worse than a simple blizz Sorc


to each their own. i have more fun on nova sorc SSF without infinity and griffons than blizz sorc.
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