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So I see a lot of rings/boots and jewels where people are posting them with life rep and asking astronomical prices. I'm just trying to wrap my head how anything less than like 500 life rep would be beneficial and I don't think thats even possible with any item. So are insignificant amounts of life rep really worth all this gold people ask for?
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So I see a lot of rings/boots and jewels where people are posting them with life rep and asking astronomical prices. I'm just trying to wrap my head how anything less than like 500 life rep would be beneficial and I don't think thats even possible with any item. So are insignificant amounts of life rep really worth all this gold people ask for?

It’s a valued stat in pvp for a couple reasons. One reason is that in tourney/high stakes duels the fights often drag on for a long time in specific matchups this giving you a lot of value in life restored. This is mostly the case with necros and especially trappers. Necros and trappers are also very popular builds seen a lot in tournament play so the demand for life rep is driven up from that.

An example of the value you get from life rep:

Duel lasting 5 mins with 30 life rep
25(30)/256=2.9 life per second

2.9*60*5=879 life restored over the duration of the fight which is a crazy amount far beyond the amount you would get from any other mod.

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It’s a valued stat in pvp for a couple reasons. One reason is that in tourney/high stakes duels the fights often drag on for a long time in specific matchups this giving you a lot of value in life restored. This is mostly the case with necros and especially trappers. Necros and trappers are also very popular builds seen a lot in tournament play so the demand for life rep is driven up from that.

An example of the value you get from life rep:

Duel lasting 5 mins with 30 life rep
25(30)/256=2.9 life per second

2.9*60*5=879 life restored over the duration of the fight which is a crazy amount far beyond the amount you would get from any other mod.


But thats assuming you don't get touched, are duels really lasting 5 mins without getting touched? Also I appreciate you answering, I'm just trying to wrap my brain around this still.

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But thats assuming you don't get touched, are duels really lasting 5 mins without getting touched? Also I appreciate you answering, I'm just trying to wrap my brain around this still.


You have to get damaged to rep. If you are ever in a duel and need to rebo, that means your duel lasted ~3 min already.

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But thats assuming you don't get touched, are duels really lasting 5 mins without getting touched? Also I appreciate you answering, I'm just trying to wrap my brain around this still.


I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Life rep isn’t stopped by taking damage in d2 unless you’re poisoned or have open wounds. A lot of matchups your enemy won’t be procing either of those things and even in the cases where your enemy has OW and poison there will be periods when you will be able to rep. Even if you’re only repping for 25% of the time it’s still a significant amount of life restored especially when you think of the price difference 1 life costs at the high end (think of the difference in cost of 44 life gcs vs 45 life for example)

5 mins was actually a conservative estimate of how long some pride fights go on for btw. There have been fights that have lasted over an hour (watch dazer duel anyone in the final of a tourney). The amount of life restore by rep in those situations can add up to several times the total life pool of your character. It’s an aids af way to play but that’s what people do to win and that’s why they are willing to also pay so much for the stat

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I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Life rep isn’t stopped by taking damage in d2 unless you’re poisoned or have open wounds. A lot of matchups your enemy won’t be procing either of those things and even in the cases where your enemy has OW and poison there will be periods when you will be able to rep. Even if you’re only repping for 25% of the time it’s still a significant amount of life restored especially when you think of the price difference 1 life costs at the high end (think of the difference in cost of 44 life gcs vs 45 life for example)


Sorry I am new to all this. I've been in a few PvP games where the duels don't last remotely close to 5mins. I can't fathom running and avoiding someone for 5mins to gain that life back. So what I'm saying is, so lets say you have 100 life rep, what does that matter if whoever you're dueling just continuously pounces on you, its like that life rep means nothing cuz every 10 seconds, you're gonna be taking some kind of damage, unless we're both just continously running from each other. I guess as my experience grows I'll understand it more. I
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Sorry I am new to all this. I've been in a few PvP games where the duels don't last remotely close to 5mins. I can't fathom running and avoiding someone for 5mins to gain that life back. So what I'm saying is, so lets say you have 100 life rep, what does that matter if whoever you're dueling just continuously pounces on you, its like that life rep means nothing cuz every 10 seconds, you're gonna be taking some kind of damage, unless we're both just continously running from each other. I guess as my experience grows I'll understand it more. I


Yea you’re right it’s not a worthwhile stat for random pub duels and certainly not worth the price. It’s used for those super sweaty drawn out pride duels between people that are competing for prizes or bragging rights. Anything that gives you a competitive edge in those situations are going to drive up the price because all those guys that are super competitive are also usually super fg rich and are bidding against other super rich people

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Yea you’re right it’s not a worthwhile stat for random pub duels and certainly not worth the price. It’s used for those super sweaty drawn out pride duels between people that are competing for prizes or bragging rights. Anything that gives you a competitive edge in those situations are going to drive up the price because all those guys that are super competitive are also usually super fg ruch


I guess I feel that to some degree, I'm usually a CS player and some of my skins convert to millions of FG and I'm somewhat competitive, but 1 hs ends you there lol

Again I def appreciate you for answering!
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Another reason is that there just isn’t a better stat in a lot of situations so you might as well have life rep. The itens that you are seeing have life rep in addition to other really nice/near perfect rolled stats. Life rep by its own is not valued. Fcr+ life+mana+rep on a ring for example is highly valued because a sin or necro can use that in virtually all situations thus a high demand
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Quote (Void511 @ Aug 22 2024 11:25am)
Another reason is that there just isn’t a better stat in a lot of situations so you might as well have life rep. The itens that you are seeing have life rep in addition to other really nice/near perfect rolled stats. Life rep by its own is not valued. Fcr+ life+mana+rep on a ring for example is highly valued because a sin or necro can use that in virtually all situations thus a high demand


I feel like I would value stats over life rep, then you can just add more to vit in the end. But like I said I'm new, so just trying to learn and understand better
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