http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=71080957


Here a few more tip's if you dont have imagination.

You dont get it...
Pretty sure you didnt follow the WHOLE topic.. otherwise you didnt respond like this.

many armors?

What armors ppl can use now?
- Enigma, a life boost armor (and low def), cheap AF (25 fgs orso)
- Arky's Eth w/ zod, not so cheap armor as Enigma, and the more ed it has, the higher the price.
- Hades, same as arkys, next to that the 2 jewels who has to be bought, so an 'expansive' option as well. (atleast way more expansive than enigma)
- Eth Tyreals might, same as arkys.. high price when high ed.. thus waaay more expansive than enigma.
- Eth/rep rare armors, those speak for itself. they cost 10k+ fgs orso... aka way to expansive for lots of people.

E; Ok.. You can say stuff like eth duriel shell, GA etc, but even THOSE are more expansive than Enigma/prudence, and should be in the same catagory as Arkys are.

So for those who wants to spent like 25 fgs on their armor, are forced to use Enigma.. and nothing else.
Prudence is just another example of an armor ppl can use with a 25 fg on armor budget.

Eni if u want more life
Prudence if u want more def.

Also Prudence is FAR from OP, pretty sure a good Hades/arky roll is gonna be better. Enigma is preffered a lot too, since many ppl will look more to life than defense.

I just find it stupid that Argand says rules cant be changed. The mana pot thing u mentioned has nothing to do with it, and thats a way different rule (Prudence is gear specific, mana pots not)

This Argans guy havent joined tours in years, perhaps last tour he joined was before both you and I has joined JSP.

Saying rules cant change because 'its the law' doesnt make sense and doesnt say anything. Even laws change at some time. So why gear rules for aow shouldnt?

Again.. Prudence is a nice armor if you want defense, but it offers nothing else.. With Prudence new people can give the high end geared bvbers a 'hard' time, which makes tours way more fun (You wont know who will win, or atleast way less easy then as it is now).



This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 02:39pm

and for ppl who dont want spent more than 100fg on a char, what is the point joining to tournaments?

Listed more armors in my last reply.

Saw that.

It isnt the thing that I REALLY REALLY want to get Prudence being allowed, I just want another possibility for armors.
I was talking about 25-40 fgs on armor only, not 100 on full char.

The started bvbers, who CANT afford eth upped armors, hades, rare sa's etc.. or simply dont want to spent that much on their bvber, SHOULD be able to choose between atleast 2 armors.

I started mine with Engima too, but maybe would have used prudence instead because the big def boost. (or after I had a visio with decent stats)

But my whole thing is:
Argand saying rules will NEVER change, this is just pathetic.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 02:42pm

i feel like i talk to wall.

Gl, but the rules wont change

Me too. He doesnt even want to understand why the rules cant be changed... and he doesnt even understand the difference between general bvb rules and exceptions that can be made in tours/leagues (like using prudence there, if someone wants his tournament to include it).

Why wouldnt it?
Whats the big deal about changing rules sometimes? Esp if they are like xx years old already.
Its just 1 simple thing.

You know.. its a fact that when allowing Eth bugged prudence people gets more fun.
- More people joining (perhaps....)
- less differences between 'new' and 'experienced' people, since some new ppl has like 30k defense, but ofc way lower life/dmg/ar than experienced players. And with Enigma new ppl has 'higher life', but low def, ar and dmg too.

Why wouldnt there be 2 options for like every price catagory?
You cant tell me a decent roll Eth upped armor costs 25 fgs.

Enigma and ebugged prudence are.

Again: Maybe we shouldnt force new people to use enigma, because its the cheapest. These people have also rights to choose IMO.

Anyway.. I dont see a problem with changing rules at all. Ofc it shouldnt change like 100%, I never said that. But this tiny tiny rule CAN be changed after it has been tested by us bvbers in the next tour





Anyway.. we will test it in a next tour orso. And lets see what happens after that... (Atleast thats what Cranium, hoster of like all recent tours, said)

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 02:53pm

You can start aow tournament, and you can indclude rule that prudence is allowed, ( But in that tournament ).

If after 5-10 tournaments all ok then make this topic

Thats what Ive been saying all along: Testing it and then see what happens.
I just ry to argue the pros of using it, and it seems you and Argand just dont understand.

But the thing 'Rules will never change' is just plain stupid.

5-10 tours is just too much lol..
it can be easily tested in like 2 or 3 tours.. Every tour there will be some ppl who havent joined the previous tour, every tour will be different ppl (apart from the ppl who always join ofc)

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 02:57pm

Go test 5 tournaments, propably after tournaments you will understand.

Rules wont change only cos ''new ppl'' wanna join and they are too lazy to get fg or want to spent they beloved fg.