Well only crits are going to break the 7500 mark, and guil does more of those.

yah but arreats does more hits :3

lets say 3k life nec (blocker has about this), cb does 1/10 and iirc 1/20 if he has 50 dr(correct me if its wrong)? I think calculating the damage of it at half life on nec works allright, so you do like 37 dmg or so then, 75 before dr, 450 before pvp penalty

now you have 50% cb on grief and 70% on beast, and 15% and 35% with arreats

this would mean 225 cb damage on grief on average hit and 315 on beast with guilli
and 67 on arreat grief and 157 on beast

so ~150 more on grief and ~150 more on beast (rounded down a bit just for sake of easy math)

this is like 2% more damage on grief and 5% on beast when using hl, but cb goes throu bone armor so I find it pretty cool against mb necs (for nb I use 63 fcr), usually I use circ anyway for higher chance of ow thou

now hammerdins have like 5k life and you might not use HL there so the cb would add about 4% on grief hit and about 10% on beast hit

these calculations are kinda flawed but you can see that cb cant really be overlooked anyway, someone should make proper calculations on this I guess

now this aint really THAT huge difference in damage but still its enough to push the average damage higher than arreats while most of the extra stats of arreats are totally useless in this duel

someone should calculate the damage per hitcheck (including chance to hit, lets say they'd have 15k def and be same level), that will push arreats closer at least

This post was edited by tudey on Aug 26 2010 01:18pm

Yes but..

arreats crit=1-(1-0.32)*(1-0.35)=55.8
guil crit =1-(1-0.31(?))*(1-0.50)=65.5

With cth 59%(guil) and 62%(arreats) = 5% more hits

So in same time for both arreats crits 55.8*1.05=58.6

So guil will crit more often (~65 times for every ~58 time with areats) and therefore reach the 7500 mark more often (for 75% chance of recovery animation).

This post was edited by hue_two on Aug 26 2010 01:28pm

you dont need to analyze crits seperately.. just multiply damage with crit chance and it describes the average aggregate damage(non cb non ow nonele dmg)

we were discussing hits that cause fhr.. i.e. crit hits