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Mar 8 2017 01:23pm
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 09:20pm)
Difference is that those people who voted so far (TROLLFACE and Liskod) DO have atleast a LITTLE knowledge.

I told u earlier that I agree with you on that 'rand' people voting shouldnt count (But these arent 'rand' people, so)

Anyway.. we're getting really off topic...

So...
Back about Prudence:

Why is it called Eth BUGGED prudence, while its a cube recipe? A ladder only recipe. Just like upping from exceptional to Elite is ladder only.

now I am gonna call all my uped uniques and crafted items "bugged" :rofl:
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Mar 8 2017 01:24pm
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 08:20pm)
Difference is that those people who voted so far (TROLLFACE and Liskod) DO have atleast a LITTLE knowledge.

I told u earlier that I agree with you on that 'rand' people voting shouldnt count (But these arent 'rand' people, so)

Anyway.. we're getting really off topic...

So...
Back about Prudence:

Why is it called Eth BUGGED prudence, while its a cube recipe? A ladder only recipe. Just like upping from exceptional to Elite is ladder only.


well, to me they ARE rand people (not in an offensive meaning!). propably to a lot of bvbs, they are. what would you say if i bring some of my friends into this? people who never played bvb but do know that visio is a valuable item and you use whirlwind as a main skill in bvb?


about your question: the cube recipe is bugged. the defense is bugged. this high defense (what is it, 3k? 4k?) is not meant this way. google for it please or make another topic about it.

This post was edited by Argand on Mar 8 2017 01:24pm
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Mar 8 2017 01:24pm
Can't you have two at the same time? :P

I doubt actual duels take so long that it's the limiting factor. Plus it'll be easier to find a match in either tourney at any given time
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Mar 8 2017 01:25pm
Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 21:12)
i dont know who liskod or trollface are but they dont play bvb. i have never seen them play bvb. not aow, not ffa.


I have played AoW, not much, but still ( more like tested it, one or was it two tournament or so ). Im not any "famous" BvB player, but i still don't get why Eth cubed Armor would be illigal in your community. Like i said, i don't care and i don't be mad if my vote wont count. I just sayd what i think about it. This is public discussion anyway.

This post was edited by TR0LLFACE on Mar 8 2017 01:27pm
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Mar 8 2017 01:30pm
Quote (TR0LLFACE @ 8 Mar 2017 21:25)
I have played AoW, not much, but still ( more like tested it, one tournament or so ). Im not any "famous" BvB player, but i still don't get why Eth cubed Armor would be illigal in your community. Like i said, i don't care and i don't be mad if my vote wont count. I just sayd what i think about it. This is public discussion anyway.


Argand havent joined tours since ages (Atleast not the last 2 years afaik, atleast Ive never duelled him for tour before), and probarly I am also a 'rand' in his eyes, maybe not because lots of people (Vooldo, iridius, blacktwister, oldwarriors etc etc I've duelled with for tours quite a lot)..

No offense to u, Argand.. :)


Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 21:24)
well, to me they ARE rand people (not in an offensive meaning!). propably to a lot of bvbs, they are. what would you say if i bring some of my friends into this? people who never played bvb but do know that visio is a valuable item and you use whirlwind as a main skill in bvb?


about your question: the cube recipe is bugged. the defense is bugged. this high defense (what is it, 3k? 4k?) is not meant this way. google for it please or make another topic about it.


TROLLFACE joined a tour once, I have joined several tours the past 2 years...
But you havent joined tours the last 2 years (or not everytime like ppl as Iridius, Blacktwister, Breee etc did).


E; Also tell me whats the matter with 3k or 4k def armor?
Eth sa's has 2.6k, eth zod'd Templar might (or tyreal might..) has 3k def also.

These armors offers much more then 'just' defense.

Again: Pretty sure the ppl who are in now/join frequently the tours wont change to Prudence, because their armor is better. (Def isnt everything you know..)

What does Prudence offers?
- High def (3k or 4k)

What does a rare sa offers?
- Little lower def, but still high: 2.4-2.6 or 2.7k
- Stats (Life, strenght, dex)
- Damage (from ed jewels)
- Perhaps ar/-req/dmg2mana from jewel(s) too

What does a ethereal 3 socketed upped black hades offer?
- Good def (2.5k ish)
- 2 sockets for extra stats, damage and ar.

What does Arkys offer?
- Decent def, like 2.1k
- 2 skills (giving you a life, dmg and ar boost)
- some dr (flat dr), so you take a tiny bit less damage.
- VItality, which is unboable life, but still life.

Enigma:
- 7x strenght, thus 7x MORE points in vita, thus more life.
- 2 skills (ar dmg and life boost)
- 5% life.. Oh look, even MORE life!
IN return Enigma has low defense.

But as I said in an earlier post, you shouldnt compare Prudence with Enigma.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 01:35pm
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Mar 8 2017 01:34pm
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Mar 8 2017 08:30pm)
Argand havent joined tours since ages (Atleast not the last 2 years afaik, atleast Ive never duelled him for tour before), and probarly I am also a 'rand' in his eyes, maybe not because lots of people (Vooldo, iridius, blacktwister, oldwarriors etc etc I've duelled with for tours quite a lot)..

No offense to u, Argand.. :)




TROLLFACE joined a tour once, I have joined several tours the past 2 years...
But you havent joined tours the last 2 years (or not everytime like ppl as Iridius, Blacktwister, Breee etc did).


well, that might be true, but i have (re-)written these rules before you even joined jsp and played bvb and i am still watching over these rules and watching what happens in this community as you might notice.
me and darkal have designed the codex which you use to play bvb.
i have hosted the first big bvb tournament/league and many others since 2010. the point system with which you play was created by me.
please dont make yourself ridiculous now by putting my opinion on this matter in question. i have done more bvb duels than you propably ever will.
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Mar 8 2017 01:34pm
Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 21:24)
about your question: the cube recipe is bugged. the defense is bugged.


Well if you think like this then Eth Upg Arreat should be illigal too, that defence is as "bugged" as cubed eth Armor.

e: But yeah, i think you guys get solved this problem with out me :D

This post was edited by TR0LLFACE on Mar 8 2017 01:36pm
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Mar 8 2017 01:37pm
Quote (Argand @ 8 Mar 2017 21:34)
well, that might be true, but i have (re-)written these rules before you even joined jsp and played bvb and i am still watching over these rules and watching what happens in this community as you might notice.
me and darkal have designed the codex which you use to play bvb.
i have hosted the first big bvb tournament/league and many others since 2010. the point system with which you play was created by me.
please dont make yourself ridiculous now by putting my opinion on this matter in question. i have done more bvb duels than you propably ever will.


Its more the fact u call ppl like TROLLFACE, who has joined a tour atleast once a 'rand' because you dont know him.

So there are more ppl u dont know.
- Oldwarriors
- Amandine
- MrStyle
- Knepich

Just to name a few, who are in this tour.
Are those 'rands' too? Because u dont know 'em?

Maybe u know Oldwarriors though, as it's his xx'd tour he joined in already. (And a well known, respected and friendly guy too)

The thing that bothers me is that you call people 'rand' because they never joined a tour at the time u joined them, atleast 3 years ago.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Mar 8 2017 01:38pm
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You can socket a normal ethereal item, and it will remain ethereal, and gain sockets just as a non-ethereal item would.

In Diablo 2 version 1.11 and 1.11b, there is a bug regarding the socketing of ethereal armors and shields. Ethereal armors and shields are assigned a 50% bonus to their base defense rating when dropped. This is normal. What is not normal is the fact that when sockets are added to an ethereal armor or shield using the Horadric Cube, that ethereal defense bonus is applied again. The result is an armor or shield with an absolutely impossible defense rating. Enhanced defense modifiers are then added to that base defense rating, so the difference in end defense is rather huge. An ethereal Sacred Rondache shield socketed this way and the having the Rune word Exile installed can have a defense in excess of 1000. And because of the self-repair mod on Exile, it will not break.

This bug appeared as a side-effect when the 1.10 ethereal armor upgrade bug was fixed. In order to fix that bug, a defense bonus of 50% was simply crammed into the ethereal unique armor upgrade formula. Unfortunately that fix also affected the ethereal armor socketing formula, making armors now gain a second defense bonus when socketed.


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=50778874&f=147&o=390
quoted from post #398

it IS definitely a bug. there is no argument about this. it's a strict fact.
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Mar 8 2017 01:39pm
nvm

This post was edited by Argand on Mar 8 2017 01:39pm
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