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#51
Jun 20 2022 01:36pm
Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 20 2022 09:31pm)
a 30frw circ gives u 30 frw. you need frw in pvp if u didnt know


so you are saying that 30frw is more important in vs phys matchup that the damage reduction? I am confused
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#52
Jun 20 2022 01:37pm
Quote (VapersIsland @ 19 Jun 2022 21:10)
Hey everyone,

I am torn apart between these builds on pvp necro:

hoto + 3/10 ammy + arach + spirit + coa berber

vs

white wand + 2/20 ammy + 2x fcr rings + arach + darkforce + coa berber

vs

white wand + 3/10 ammy + 1x fcr ring + arach + darkforce + 3/20 tiara

vs

white wand + 3/10 ammy + arach + spirit + 3/20 tiara


gloves ofc 20% fcr with all these builds

Any opinion on the topic? Maybe you have other ideas. Let me know what you think


CoA (ber/ber), Hoto, Trangs, Spirit, Arach, SoJ or BK, 10fcr ring w/ life/mana, Mara's, Aldurs.

+12 skills, FHR, Dmg Reduction, Res, FRW. Don't care what anyone says, this is what I use on all my PvP necros. Never fails.


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#53
Jun 20 2022 01:39pm
Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 09:36pm)
so you are saying that 30frw is more important in vs phys matchup that the damage reduction? I am confused


against druids yes
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#54
Jun 20 2022 01:42pm
Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 20 2022 09:39pm)
against druids yes


so you are saying that it's better to have 30frw... than 50dr or 39dr+20 cold absorb. Can you back it up with any evidence?
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Jun 20 2022 01:46pm
Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 09:42pm)
so you are saying that it's better to have 30frw... than 50dr or 39dr+20 cold absorb. Can you back it up with any evidence?


16dr from circ 8 from enigma and 15 from dungo makes it 39dr and u have 115frw :) or 50 dr with coa and 85frw

this is the difference. do u understand now?
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#56
Jun 20 2022 01:50pm
Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 20 2022 09:46pm)
16dr from circ 8 from enigma and 15 from dungo makes it 39dr and u have 115frw :) or 50 dr with coa and 85frw

this is the difference. do u understand now?


yes I do. So you basically trade +2 all skills and +2pnb skills which gives +4 to spirit and all synergies and 20% cold damage reduction for 30frw.
Or... if you are not using Ravenfrost agains druid +3 all skills and +2pnb skills which gives total of +5 to spirit and all it's synergies vs 30frw
Can anyone confirm it's worth it?
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#57
Jun 20 2022 01:56pm
Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 09:50pm)
yes I do. So you basically trade +2 all skills and +2pnb skills which gives +4 to spirit and all synergies and 20% cold damage reduction for 30frw.
Or... if you are not using Ravenfrost agains druid +3 all skills and +2pnb skills which gives total of +5 to spirit and all it's synergies vs 30frw
Can anyone confirm it's worth it?


20circ 20white 20to gloves 35spirit 20amu 10ring=125fcr here u can use a bk for example or a whisp. in ur circ u can have cham lo/ ber lo/ber ber/ jah jah/ whatever m8. this build is rly expansive buts its the best build. you have nice dr nice abs and high frw which makes it better then ur build


JUST FUCKING MAXROLL IT AND U WILL SEE ITS BETTER

This post was edited by paweljonk on Jun 20 2022 01:57pm
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#58
Jun 20 2022 01:57pm
Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 20 2022 09:46pm)
16dr from circ 8 from enigma and 15 from dungo makes it 39dr and u have 115frw :) or 50 dr with coa and 85frw

this is the difference. do u understand now?


So now I will make you understand why you are wrong...

5pnb skills (+2 all and +3 pnb) = 5 skillers
5 skillers = 15 inventory slots
15inventory slots = 45frw and 75@ res or 30frw 100life 75@ res

Still your logic makes no sense to me
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#59
Jun 20 2022 02:10pm
Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 09:57pm)
So now I will make you understand why you are wrong...

5pnb skills (+2 all and +3 pnb) = 5 skillers
5 skillers = 15 inventory slots
15inventory slots = 45frw and 75@ res or 30frw 100life 75@ res

Still your logic makes no sense to me


coa=1skill
circ =2skill

ur amu =3skill no other mods which makes it garbage
2 nec amu=2skill nice stats

2x fcr ring=0skill
fcr ring+bk=1skill

hoto=3skill
white=3pnb 5spear 3bs


so how is ur dr build in any way better?

This post was edited by paweljonk on Jun 20 2022 02:10pm
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#60
Jun 20 2022 02:14pm
Quote (VapersIsland @ Jun 20 2022 03:28pm)
yeah no one can't explain why this is bad but everyone follows someones build without thinking. idk...



all you did was offend, nothing else, no constructive criticism. You haven't pointed out a single thing yours do better. Same like the guy you quoted...



explain to me how this setup is better vs phys/hybrid than a coa

you can call my build dumb all you want, but you have no arguments, not a single one. All you can say is "because someone said so" when you don't even understand why


because coa isnt as good as a circlet, what more do you need to know lol.
i would use a ber shako before i used a coa tbh.

This post was edited by straightedgerevenge on Jun 20 2022 02:15pm
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