There are more efficient runs now

botters stabilize the ladder lol. Without them you would be paying ridic prices for items

I'm so sick of people arguing 'botters make items more affordable, what's the problem?'. Yes they make items more affordable and they also make items next to worthless, so when you grind out a good find guess what? it's worth dick. are you having fun now? no. what's the point in playing ? why do you think people tune in for new ladders? because it's rewarding to find items that actually hold value and botters take that factor out of the equation. Let me just spell it out for you: if you think botters don't ruin this game you have mental problems because the joy of playing this game is in the fact that you can hold some pride in having spent the time investment to find something exclusive and precious. If you don't agree then take your ass to single player.

Botters are good for the game.

d2r is fucked. botters were inevitable, and are BAD for pvm, but GOOD for pvp. and blizzard fucked up pvp, aka the only thing that kept D2c alive for years outside of the initial 1-2 months of fresh ladder.

if it was a heavily botted game where pvp was good, fine. if it was a non-botted game where pvp was shit, fine. they fucked up, they listened to shitty feedback to make all chars viable in pvm, which ruins pvp, when pvm was already ruined by botters.

its like 2 kids arguing over who got the bigger cookie and the mom throwing both in the trash.

Pvpers need pvmers

Pvpers know this

Pvmers need pvpers

Pvmers think they don’t.


It’s quite comical.

Pvp is the game.

Pvm is the way to get to it.

Blizzard killed pvp becuse pvmers cry about pvp mechanics that don’t affect them.

Pvmers cry that prices are dropping.

Prices are dropping fast because there is no market to sell to.

The market is and has always been pvpers.

People will argue about what ur saying but the facts are the facts look how fast it died lol ive been playing classic ladder for the past week only time i got on expansion was for a trade or to kill dclone

yup. the fact that pvmers think selling to pvmers is a sustainable market is hilarious.

They cry about bots

It’s not a supply problem

It’s a demand problem


Every time they sell something all they are doing is increasing their competition, thus increasing supply. But since there is no demand, the market collapsed in on itself.

But yet they still cry that it’s bots.



Noooooooooooooope

play hardcore u dont have that problem who seriously plays sc 10 year olds lol