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Feb 19 2016 12:15am
In this thread people wish for the for following things to happen:

-Full HD resolution + graphics similar to D3
-New act
-New class
-New runewords & items
-Merge realms
-Stop bots
-Bnet 2.0 compatible

People should stop daydreaming, lmao.
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Feb 19 2016 12:55am
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Quote (Deppi @ Feb 18 2016 10:11pm)
Yawn. Take this with a grain of salt, click-whore title. 100gbps is far from becoming "a standard casual internet speed". Standards for that speed have been there for so long already though. Price matters. Also, if core network could handle 100gbps, think about a neighbourhood behind that same line, actually sharing it. There is only so much trunk capacity. If you work with networks then pardon my shortcuts in explanation, otherwise just remember the salt...

shared bandwidth throughout neighborhood? if you say so Derpina
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Quote (SpAz. @ Feb 18 2016 05:09pm)
it came from the idea that it would be totally fucking awesome, playing with americans and asians.
It is entirely possible to be done, you can make [hosted] games automatically choose location to a european one for a europe located player, and vice versa. IDK much about net and programming, but it can be done. Needs server upgrades I am sure but don't tell me its not possible, theres plenty games that has this.

and ofcourse there are also ways to store characters intact after a server modification. I can't imagine it wouldnt be possible, even though I havent the slightest idea about the actual wiring that would be neccesarry.
If you're so clever about it (you may be) - explain us, dumb it down for us, your professional expertise as to why neither would be possible. Instead of just saying "no, wont work". And, important, do it like a professional - that means that youre able to explain your field with sense to someone without any knowledge whatsoever about your field. This is if you wish to contribute to a productive topic, and not just post nonsense. if you can't do that then maybe you arent as competent as you think.
Because I have seen you around and what your post are like. Your avatar isnt a spoof, its totally representable of you as a forumite. Pessimistic posts, without substance, everwhere. id assume you think you're just bringing your "troll on". well... godspeed to you. congratz on your +1 I guess.


When you're done hiring a new legacy games department after the 3 man team quits when you give them this project, significant portions of the game, the backend software and the database itself would all have to be rewritten just to allow a player to change his account name.
Currently the old bnet database on each realm does not have a serial number for each account. The account name is the unique identifier. That's part of what makes double registration possible (which people are still falling for even when its been used since the days of warcraft 3)
D2, sc, wc3 accounts are not currently tied to the cdkey or bnet account. If you added a unique identifier and merged the realms, how would the player change his account name after this happened? With multiples of each account name now present at the same time, there's no way for the login system as it currently exists to know which *igetmadatworrywartbecauseimalwayswrong account the player is trying to access.

Are you going to send out mass emails to the millions of registered accounts and ask them politely to change their account name within 90 days? What about the millions of unregistered accounts?

Ok, let's say you solved the account name problem (lol)
Now you need to bind accounts to the cdkey and by extension the battlenet account to have it work with this lovely new battlenet we have. Ok, fine.

Now you assign that new 3man legacy games team (or perhaps 4 after this job posting) to find a way to combine the character names, deleting all duplicates.
Now you have to find a way to let d2 players know the name they've been using for 10 years is being deleted so that a dclone bot from romania can use it.
Now you have to write a pseudo-matchmaking system to only show games in the online list that are in their "realm"
Now you have to deal with the fact that people who live in other regions only want to play USEAST anyway because that's the only timezone that matters.

And it goes on and on from there, each step creating another problem that has to be fixed.
You're right, this isn't an impossible task. It's just a very stupid one that will cost someone a lot of man-hours and money. Money they won't get back because *spoiler* anyone who is remotely interested in diablo 2 already owns half a dozen cdkeys.

Imagine someone on the board of directors standing up and suggesting that they budget a vast amount of money on updating the backend for a game that hasn't made them money in nearly 10 years and which none of them had any part in making to begin with? A game with so many unfixed bugs that they don't want it to even appear in the store next to d3, hoping that they'll buy d3 instead of playing the other games first.

Quote (Trillasecond @ Feb 19 2016 01:55am)
nn HD spam

shared bandwidth throughout neighborhood? if you say so Derpina


Oh yeah, worldwide comcast sounds like a great idea. After all, it works so well for comcast.

This post was edited by Worrywart on Feb 19 2016 01:01am
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Feb 19 2016 01:10am
Around the time d2 was released, if you had posted on your website that the updates for the software you had written were going to be free, they would have clicked "back" and assumed it was a scam.
You wrote a program, you sold copies the program to users and then you started writing a new one. If you were lucky, you sold the rights to your old one when the sales started to dwindle.
If you wrote an update to your program, you made the users buy the updated version.

What does blizzard have to offer for $ that the third party market (from private servers like annihilus and the pvp servers to game-altering mods like median) doesn't already offer for free? Updated graphics? The only time that these kinds of remakes have had success is on steam, where people buy games on impulse that they have no intention of ever playing.

The AOE HD remake was successful because it offered matchmaking. It was not successful because of the "HD" graphics or the ridiculous expansion they released more than 10 years after the game came out.

If blizzard doesn't waste a colossal effort on a free update for a game they do not care about, what then? Merge the realms then release another paid expansion for a game nobody plays?
Having your account names and char names deleted, then having blizzard force an xpac down your throats as an additional "fuck you" is the kind of PR disaster you should expect out of the Clinton campaign, not a successful entity.

This post was edited by Worrywart on Feb 19 2016 01:32am
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Quote (Worrywart @ Feb 18 2016 11:10pm)
Around the time d2 was released, if you had posted on your website that the updates for the software you had written were going to be free, they would have clicked "back" and assumed it was a scam.
You wrote a program, you sold copies the program to users and then you started writing a new one. If you were lucky, you sold the rights to your old one when the sales started to dwindle.
If you wrote an update to your program, you made the users buy the updated version.

What does blizzard have to offer for $ that the third party market (from private servers like annihilus and the pvp servers to game-altering mods like median) doesn't already offer for free? Updated graphics? The only time that these kinds of remakes have had success is on steam, where people buy games on impulse that they have no intention of ever playing.

The AOE HD remake was successful because it offered matchmaking. It was not successful because of the "HD" graphics or the ridiculous expansion they released more than 10 years after the game came out.

If blizzard doesn't waste a colossal effort on a free update for a game they do not care about, what then? Merge the realms then release another paid expansion for a game nobody plays?
Having your account names and char names deleted, then having blizzard force an xpac down your throats as an additional "fuck you" is the kind of PR disaster you should expect out of the Clinton campaign, not a successful entity.


you really are a worrywart
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Feb 19 2016 03:08pm
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Feb 21 2016 10:33am
No1 plays d2 and no1 would come back and pay 30 or even 50$ for a small upgrade like reso and bug and server fix. Youre right worrywart, almost. Just a few million people off, other than that youre right.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Feb 21 2016 10:33am
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Feb 21 2016 10:37am
In all honesty. Any company that miss out on an opportunity like the one blizzard has with their legacy titles, to relaunch them with a small or big rework, at a 30-50$ per copy/license, is a fucking bad company.

Diablo starcraft and warcraft are some of if not the strongest brands in the gaming industry.

Lets say its hard. Lets say its 1000 man hours, or 5000. Itd still be worth it from a business perspective. With little to no marketing a d2 remake with just a few additions would sell a GUARANTEED 1 million licenses.
charge 39.99$ per and tell me theres no business in doing it.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Feb 21 2016 10:39am
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Quote (SpAz. @ 21 Feb 2016 17:37)
In all honesty. Any company that miss out on an opportunity like the one blizzard has with their legacy titles, to relaunch them with a small or big rework, at a 30-50$ per copy/license, is a fucking bad company.

Diablo starcraft and warcraft are some of if not the strongest brands in the gaming industry.

Lets say its hard. Lets say its 1000 man hours, or 5000. Itd still be worth it from a business perspective. With little to no marketing a d2 remake with just a few additions would sell a GUARANTEED 1 million licenses.
charge 39.99$ per and tell me theres no business in doing it.


this.
There would be even more than enough people who need to buy Classic and Lod which means additional 20$ for them

And tbh, they wouldnt even need to do much, higher res, bigger stash, fill the empty wp slots in a4 and done :D
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Feb 21 2016 11:41am
Worryfart/10

I cabt believe how pessimistic people can be :D
Id like an overall review of real life by worrytwart.
Would be so fun to read.
"I hate my neighbour he listen to shit music"
"fuck this coffee its too dark today"
"my dog made a disgusting sound while eating, i might have to give it away coz i dont wanna hear it ever again"

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