are you implying that white wand isn't used in most setups because i never said it was being used over hoto in most higher end builds
the damage from white outweighs the hoto stats for sure, but other items there is no doubt you want in that slot like a 2/30/20/2 circlet.

This post was edited by straightedgerevenge on Jun 20 2022 12:13pm

ok maybe it will be best to explain my point in having some matchups with stats etc
I am going to mostly focus on 1v1 and 2v2 since I am not planning to play tvt



Vs ele casters:

3/20/2os tiara um jah
3/10 amulet
2x bk
8/6 white
35 spirit
to gloves
arach
aldur boots
cta setup

swap: 2x whisp 2x dwarf 2x raven

125fcr
max res
free to swap to any 2 ele reduction rings
+36 spear from setup with bo (56 total)
+34 spirit from setip with bo (54 total)

vs full phys

coa ber ber
3/10 amu
hoto
spirit
to gloves
dungo
2x 10fcr rings with str/hp/mana/lrep mods to be picked what is needed
bo setup

125fcr
overcapped res
+23 skills from items with bo (+43 total)

vs hybrid / 2v2
coa ber ber
hoto
spirit
to gloves
arach
2x bk
bo setup

ring swaps: 2x raven / 2x whisp / 2x dwarf

125fcr
overcapped res
free to swap any 2 ele reduction rings
+25 skills from items with bo (+45 total)


what do you think?

1. You cant use 2x wisps, ravens or dwarf and be GM
2. 3/10 ammy is trash, 3/20/2 circ is budget as hell and really bad even with jewels that are worth 5k fg
3. Only setup you use bk rings in is vs hdin or nvn

1. 2 ele reduction rings as of raven+whisp or whisp+dwarf etc not 2 of each
2. everyone says it's trash but no one can give me any answer why is it trash and what stat outweights the additional skill when I basically have it all capped
3. yeah bk or soj, I mean by it +1 skill and life or mana depending on matchup

Game is 20 years old my man. I didnt make the builds, but no good player will use those items so what does that tell you :rollseyes:

This

Asking for help. Gets help. Na dont need it.

Necs using coa because its budget and a clean 2/30/20 2os costs 50+K

A 2/20/2 with minor mods is cheap and better than coa setup.


Not to mention a 2/20/30 without 2 sockets and extra mods is much better than coa setup is still cheap

yeah no one can't explain why this is bad but everyone follows someones build without thinking. idk...



all you did was offend, nothing else, no constructive criticism. You haven't pointed out a single thing yours do better. Same like the guy you quoted...



explain to me how this setup is better vs phys/hybrid than a coa

you can call my build dumb all you want, but you have no arguments, not a single one. All you can say is "because someone said so" when you don't even understand why

a 30frw circ gives u 30 frw. you need frw in pvp if u didnt know

btw u miss ur fhr cap in ur caster setup xD

This post was edited by paweljonk on Jun 20 2022 01:37pm